When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:32:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.

Are we convicting him again?

Bear in mind he was accused by a convicted perjurer ;-)

It would be ironic if Shellie was the one who actually goes to jail, a
boost for every guy who was screwed in a divorce.


Your hero George is a hothead with a gun. It appears as if he went to
the house of his father in law, where his estranged wife is staying, got
into a fight, and allegedly struck his father in law. But, of course,
it's Florida...so who knows what will happen, eh?

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/2013 3:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you
present it as.
That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one
for the .45)

Use your imagination. Slide it around on your belt and call it an ass
carry holster or a shortarm carry holster. ;-)

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:32:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.

Are we convicting him again?

Bear in mind he was accused by a convicted perjurer ;-)

It would be ironic if Shellie was the one who actually goes to jail, a
boost for every guy who was screwed in a divorce.



It's been obvious for some time that George Zimmerman is a hotheaded
asshole who shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. Turns out his wife
decided to leave him just before he shot and killed Martin. Smart woman.
Now he's been the object of two vehicular stops in a short period of
time and today he apparently threatened his wife and allegedly punched
his father in law, and may have threatened one or both of them with a
gun and a knife. At the moment, the wife is not pressing charges, which
is all too typical of an abused woman.

I predicted George Zimmerman would come to a bad end, though I didn't
see it happening as quickly as it seems to be happening. He's either
going to shoot his wife or he will play cowboy with someone who is armed
and a faster draw.

You righties have such wonderful folks as your heroes.

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.

Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/13 7:32 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.

Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...


Nice story, asshole.

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.

Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...

Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement??

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


So Zimmerman was lying? And you'd better watch it, Greg thinks that
videos tell the truth about an event, and one can come to a conclusion
about things as mechanically complex as a boat just by watching a cell
phone video!

L:ying about what? That is a hip carry, not a small of the back carry.
It would be a totally different holster.

Try it.

The boat video, simple. NOBODY who was responsible would apply that
much throttle in that place.

Again, here's the trouble. From watching the video, you have become,
somehow, 100% sure that there was no mechanical anomaly that could
happen, and that the operator acting like a fool is the ONLY thing that
could possibly be. I'm intelligent enough to understand that just
because I watch a video, I can't come to a complete 100% conclusion
about what happened.

The unofficial buzz is there were two RIBs sitting there watching
people on the pier, They got a call. One burned out in a Cypress
Gardens turn and the second guy tried it on the outside of the first
guys turn. Wake and just not enough room caused the wreck.

Hearsay, and speculation. Nothing more.

If you hear another story cite it.

Cite your's first!

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H
wrote:


http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.

Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one
hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really
true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun
out with martin sitting on him.

Holy **** that's stupid!

Name-calling will make you believable.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 07:49:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.

Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...

Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement??

Lay on your back on the sidewalk. Raise your head and smack it into the concrete hard enough to
break the skin. Do this two or three times.

Let us know how it feels, Mr. Heman!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 

On 9/9/13 1:39 PM, skin a cat wrote:


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...

Right...a sickly little ****head like you with cancer and a heart
condition with someone holding you down is going to be able to lift your
butt off the ground and grab the firearm you don't carry because you
don't have...

Next time you fall off that motorbike, try to land on your head, so you
don't damage anything valuable.