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John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:31 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Oh, hell.....

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

skin a cat September 9th 13 06:39 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:52 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Oh, hell.....

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.


Try to follow. Write it down if you can't remember... YOU said the
"holster was in front". That is horse****. Hell, did you watch the video
of Zimmerman HIMSELF showing where the gun was????

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:53 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:53 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:45:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Cite?


You should have watched the prosecutor's demonstration.

John (Gun Nut) H.


So the prosecutor knows more about what happened that night than
Zimmerman now?

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:58 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.


Zimmerman did not take the stand.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 07:59 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.


Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??


Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:01 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...


And all of that is inconsitent with what happened, according to the
defense.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:03 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

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says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.


Zimmerman did not take the stand.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman at the crime scene giving account of
what happened? Did you see him demonstrating himself reaching to his
back for his gun? I'm sure you did, so you must be maintaining that he
was lying then? Martin didn't take the stand neither, so???

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:05 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?


Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


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