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When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:11:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:23:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:26:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:29:58 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:06:33 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:43:23 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Finally, a stand your ground incident that is justified? A Texas father who discovered a man raping his five-year-old daughter and beat him to death with his bare hands will not be charged with homicide under state law. A Lavaca County grand jury decided not to press charges against the 23-year-old father in the June 9th death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47, who was killed inside a remote shack after he was caught molesting the young girl. Under Texas state law, deadly force is authorized and indeed, justified in order to stop an aggravated sexual assault and coupled with the fact that the harrowing 911 calls made by the father back claims he even tried to save the pedophile's life led to the grand jury's decision. Lavaca County sheriff's deputies said that the father, whose name has not been released to protect the little girl's identity, sent her and her brother to feed the family's chickens. The boy rushed back to tell his dad that someone had grabbed his sister and taken her to a small secluded shack and the father rushed towards his daughter's screams and arrived to find them both with their underwear off. Flying into a rage, the father beat Flores unconscious, but attempted to call 911 for the rapist after he had made sure his daughter was safe. Sheriff Micah Harmon had said in June that he was not willing to press charges against the father, rather the case would be presented to a grand jury. At the time, Harmon said that the man was 'very remorseful' and didn't know at the time he had killed Flores. 'You have a right to defend your daughter,' Harmon told CNN at the time. 'The girl's father acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him.' Indeed, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. Becoming increasingly frazzled, the father at one point tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital before sheriff's deputies finally arrive. V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, sternly told reporters several times during a news conference at the Lavaca County courthouse that neither the father nor the family will ever give interviews. 'He's a peaceable soul,' Huser said. 'He had no intention to kill anybody that day.' I agree the law is very applicable in this case, as it was in the Zimmerman case. John (Gun Nut) H. Yeah, no difference in circumstance, at all. One was an in progress sexual battery, the other just in progress aggravated battery. No it wasn't. Martin was walking home. As the Delbert Belton case shows, nobody could be hurt by unarmed teenagers. Strange method of walking home - sitting on someone, beating them. John (Gun Nut) H. Uh, dumbo, what was Martin doing before Zimmerman confronted him? Walking home. With Skittles. Zimmerman confronted him? Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Do you even READ??? From the trial: "While Zimmerman was on the phone with a police dispatcher, he began following Trayvon. Soon after, the dispatcher told Zimmerman it was not necessary for him to pursue the teen." Today I followed a wrecker with my wife's car attached. At no point did I 'confront' the wrecker. There is a huge difference between 'following' and 'confronting'. John (Gun Nut) H. Yeah, I suppose that if Zimmerman had stayed in his car and waiting for the cops, like he was supposed to that Martin would have found him and fought him, eh, idiot? Please provide the cite backing up your statement about Zimmerman 'confronting' Martin. Otherwise, you're just spouting the same old ****. Notice I didn't have to call you a name to prove a point. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Friday, 6 September 2013 12:03:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:23:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:26:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:29:58 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:06:33 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:43:23 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Finally, a stand your ground incident that is justified? A Texas father who discovered a man raping his five-year-old daughter and beat him to death with his bare hands will not be charged with homicide under state law. A Lavaca County grand jury decided not to press charges against the 23-year-old father in the June 9th death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47, who was killed inside a remote shack after he was caught molesting the young girl. Under Texas state law, deadly force is authorized and indeed, justified in order to stop an aggravated sexual assault and coupled with the fact that the harrowing 911 calls made by the father back claims he even tried to save the pedophile's life led to the grand jury's decision. Lavaca County sheriff's deputies said that the father, whose name has not been released to protect the little girl's identity, sent her and her brother to feed the family's chickens. The boy rushed back to tell his dad that someone had grabbed his sister and taken her to a small secluded shack and the father rushed towards his daughter's screams and arrived to find them both with their underwear off. Flying into a rage, the father beat Flores unconscious, but attempted to call 911 for the rapist after he had made sure his daughter was safe. Sheriff Micah Harmon had said in June that he was not willing to press charges against the father, rather the case would be presented to a grand jury. At the time, Harmon said that the man was 'very remorseful' and didn't know at the time he had killed Flores. 'You have a right to defend your daughter,' Harmon told CNN at the time. 'The girl's father acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him.' Indeed, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. Becoming increasingly frazzled, the father at one point tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital before sheriff's deputies finally arrive. V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, sternly told reporters several times during a news conference at the Lavaca County courthouse that neither the father nor the family will ever give interviews. 'He's a peaceable soul,' Huser said. 'He had no intention to kill anybody that day.' I agree the law is very applicable in this case, as it was in the Zimmerman case. John (Gun Nut) H. Yeah, no difference in circumstance, at all. One was an in progress sexual battery, the other just in progress aggravated battery. No it wasn't. Martin was walking home. As the Delbert Belton case shows, nobody could be hurt by unarmed teenagers. Strange method of walking home - sitting on someone, beating them. John (Gun Nut) H. Uh, dumbo, what was Martin doing before Zimmerman confronted him? Walking home. With Skittles. Zimmerman confronted him? Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Do you even READ??? From the trial: "While Zimmerman was on the phone with a police dispatcher, he began following Trayvon. Soon after, the dispatcher told Zimmerman it was not necessary for him to pursue the teen." Today I followed a wrecker with my wife's car attached. At no point did I 'confront' the wrecker. There is a huge difference between 'following' and 'confronting'. John (Gun Nut) H. -- SAY WHAT!! That brand spanking new Volkswagen Jetta with the reliable diesel engine?? Should have stayed with the trusty Toyota Highlander with it's rock solid 3.5 liter V6. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:39:27 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Friday, 6 September 2013 12:03:34 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:23:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:26:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:29:58 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:06:33 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:43:23 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Finally, a stand your ground incident that is justified? A Texas father who discovered a man raping his five-year-old daughter and beat him to death with his bare hands will not be charged with homicide under state law. A Lavaca County grand jury decided not to press charges against the 23-year-old father in the June 9th death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47, who was killed inside a remote shack after he was caught molesting the young girl. Under Texas state law, deadly force is authorized and indeed, justified in order to stop an aggravated sexual assault and coupled with the fact that the harrowing 911 calls made by the father back claims he even tried to save the pedophile's life led to the grand jury's decision. Lavaca County sheriff's deputies said that the father, whose name has not been released to protect the little girl's identity, sent her and her brother to feed the family's chickens. The boy rushed back to tell his dad that someone had grabbed his sister and taken her to a small secluded shack and the father rushed towards his daughter's screams and arrived to find them both with their underwear off. Flying into a rage, the father beat Flores unconscious, but attempted to call 911 for the rapist after he had made sure his daughter was safe. Sheriff Micah Harmon had said in June that he was not willing to press charges against the father, rather the case would be presented to a grand jury. At the time, Harmon said that the man was 'very remorseful' and didn't know at the time he had killed Flores. 'You have a right to defend your daughter,' Harmon told CNN at the time. 'The girl's father acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him.' Indeed, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. Becoming increasingly frazzled, the father at one point tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital before sheriff's deputies finally arrive. V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, sternly told reporters several times during a news conference at the Lavaca County courthouse that neither the father nor the family will ever give interviews. 'He's a peaceable soul,' Huser said. 'He had no intention to kill anybody that day.' I agree the law is very applicable in this case, as it was in the Zimmerman case. John (Gun Nut) H. Yeah, no difference in circumstance, at all. One was an in progress sexual battery, the other just in progress aggravated battery. No it wasn't. Martin was walking home. As the Delbert Belton case shows, nobody could be hurt by unarmed teenagers. Strange method of walking home - sitting on someone, beating them. John (Gun Nut) H. Uh, dumbo, what was Martin doing before Zimmerman confronted him? Walking home. With Skittles. Zimmerman confronted him? Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Do you even READ??? From the trial: "While Zimmerman was on the phone with a police dispatcher, he began following Trayvon. Soon after, the dispatcher told Zimmerman it was not necessary for him to pursue the teen." Today I followed a wrecker with my wife's car attached. At no point did I 'confront' the wrecker. There is a huge difference between 'following' and 'confronting'. John (Gun Nut) H. -- SAY WHAT!! That brand spanking new Volkswagen Jetta with the reliable diesel engine?? Should have stayed with the trusty Toyota Highlander with it's rock solid 3.5 liter V6. It would have survived the accident no better, and perhaps worse. The Highlander is less maneuverable than the VW. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
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