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iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:06 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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says...

On 9/9/13 2:56 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.

Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??


Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.


Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's
own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his
back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been
lying!!!

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 08:09 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 3:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/13 2:56 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.

Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??

Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.


Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's
own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his
back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been
lying!!!



They'll claim the video was "videoshopped..."


F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 08:32 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege



At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.


Wayne.B September 9th 13 08:37 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?


Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


===

The video clearly show him reaching for his hip, not behind his back.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:13 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you
present it as.
That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one
for the .45)


Did you watch the video? Did you notice him reach to his back? Is he
lying now?

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:14 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


He reached behind his back. Period.

skin a cat September 9th 13 09:20 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it
out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a
fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and
movements made when someone is fighting for their life...

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:21 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:09:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


They'll claim the video was "videoshopped..."


That is Kevin's forte.
He thinks the cop boat video was altered.


I'm sorry, where did I EVER say or posit that the video was altered?
That is a damned lie! What I said was that you can not come to a
conclusion that the cop did something crazy by watching it, and there
may be other reasons.

There is nothing inconsistent in the video with a hip carry and it
would not be hard in a struggle to roll over far enough to access the
firearm.

Kevin keeps trying to put that gun in the middle of his back and that
is simply bull****.


He reaches behind his friggin' back, how in hell can you deny that???



iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:22 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H
wrote:


http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.


Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one
hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really
true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun
out with martin sitting on him.


Holy **** that's stupid!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:27 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it
out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a
fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and
movements made when someone is fighting for their life...


So Zimmerman was lying? And you'd better watch it, Greg thinks that
videos tell the truth about an event, and one can come to a conclusion
about things as mechanically complex as a boat just by watching a cell
phone video!


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