On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would
prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of
building a
rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.

The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has
basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped
in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.



Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,
bridges, dams, infrastructure.

That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads
..

BTW who was talking about dams?
The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway

Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to
build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.

The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with
a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....

You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer. The asphalt dips three to five
inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer
seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would
prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of
building a
rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.

The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has
basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped
in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.



Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,
bridges, dams, infrastructure.

That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads
..

BTW who was talking about dams?
The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway

Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to
build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.

The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with
a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....

You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.

I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there
but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...

Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs
point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...
The asphalt dips three to five
inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer
seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

John (Gun Nut) H.

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:21:23 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would
prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of
building a
rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.

The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has
basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped
in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.



Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,
bridges, dams, infrastructure.

That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads
..

BTW who was talking about dams?
The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway

Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to
build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.

The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with
a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....

You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.

I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there
but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...

Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs
point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...
The asphalt dips three to five
inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer
seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Most certainly not. I was complaining about one stretch of road - which sucks.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/3/2013 2:03 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:21:23 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would
prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of
building a
rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.

The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has
basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped
in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.



Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,
bridges, dams, infrastructure.

That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads
..

BTW who was talking about dams?
The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway

Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to
build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.

The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with
a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....

You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.

I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there
but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...

Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs
point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...
The asphalt dips three to five
inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer
seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Most certainly not. I was complaining about one stretch of road - which sucks.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Yeah, I do admit to avoiding Boston all together...

On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:55:43 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 9/3/2013 2:03 PM, John H wrote:

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:21:23 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank� wrote:

On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would

prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of

building a

rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.



The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has

basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped

in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.







Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,

bridges, dams, infrastructure.



That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads

..



BTW who was talking about dams?

The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway



Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to

build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.



The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with

a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....



You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.



I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there

but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...



Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs

point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...

The asphalt dips three to five

inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer

seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.

What a mess.



John (Gun Nut) H.





Most certainly not. I was complaining about one stretch of road - which sucks.



John (Gun Nut) H.





Yeah, I do admit to avoiding Boston all together...


Boston must be devastated.
How can they survive without you buying happy meals and camping under the Freeway bridges?

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

===

Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.

On 9/3/2013 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

===

Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.


I wonder what the speed limit was in that area, and how fast John was
going... I mean, if the roads were under construction, the speed limit
could have been down around 40-45 in the city loop. Seems you might be
moving a bit faster than that to do that kind of damage, and there is no
way I am going to believe a "five inch" dropoff, all the way across the
road...

On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:16:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

===

Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.


I wonder what the speed limit was in that area, and how fast John was
going... I mean, if the roads were under construction, the speed limit
could have been down around 40-45 in the city loop. Seems you might be
moving a bit faster than that to do that kind of damage, and there is no
way I am going to believe a "five inch" dropoff, all the way across the
road...


No road under construction. Normal speed limits - probably 65, although maybe 55. Well, maybe the
drop off was only 3", I didn't get out and measure. They were worse than anything I've ever seen on
an overpass. There were three or four on the stretch around Boston.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/4/2013 5:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:16:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

===

Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.


I wonder what the speed limit was in that area, and how fast John was
going... I mean, if the roads were under construction, the speed limit
could have been down around 40-45 in the city loop. Seems you might be
moving a bit faster than that to do that kind of damage, and there is no
way I am going to believe a "five inch" dropoff, all the way across the
road...


No road under construction. Normal speed limits - probably 65, although maybe 55. Well, maybe the
drop off was only 3", I didn't get out and measure. They were worse than anything I've ever seen on
an overpass. There were three or four on the stretch around Boston.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I can see a 2-3 inch drop off and in a "non construction" area.... In CT
at least you would see a sign that indicated a "bump" or something
"ahead".... But yeah, I can see 2-3 inches... I guess I am more
familiar with how roads "work" up here and I drive with a trailer on
more than not so I "smell" stuff like that coming Not to mention, I am
somewhat neurotic and even superstitious in some of the precautions I
take before, and when towing a trailer.. I won't go deeper than to say
those of you who have paid attention over the years have heard me refer
to the "walk around" I do before my wheels ever move, ever.... no matter
what...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:16:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 9/3/2013 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

===

Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.


I wonder what the speed limit was in that area, and how fast John was
going... I mean, if the roads were under construction, the speed limit
could have been down around 40-45 in the city loop. Seems you might be
moving a bit faster than that to do that kind of damage, and there is no
way I am going to believe a "five inch" dropoff, all the way across the
road...


I have seen it on the beltway. In fact a guy I know wiped out on one
of these "buckles" on a Sportster and I ended up fixing the bike for
him.

He's never been in the real world where heaves and settlement happen!