On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:18:46 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.

I know, I've got one, a revolver. I guess if I lived down there I'd want something that'd kill
pythons and boas on the first shot.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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Hope you're having a great day!

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:39:30 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:25:13 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.

I know, I've got one, a revolver. I guess if I lived down there I'd want something that'd kill
pythons and boas on the first shot.


They usually use shotguns with bird shot (7 1/2 or 8)

It might be tough hitting a moving snake with a handgun. You really
don't want one of them to bite you. There is no venom but they do have
a mouth full of backward facing teeth.

I've seen the pictures. Horrendous looking monster mouths. I'd want an M-79 with a buckshot round.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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Hope you're having a great day!

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:39:30 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:25:13 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why
a .357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.

I know, I've got one, a revolver. I guess if I lived down there I'd
want something that'd kill
pythons and boas on the first shot.


They usually use shotguns with bird shot (7 1/2 or 8)

It might be tough hitting a moving snake with a handgun. You really
don't want one of them to bite you. There is no venom but they do
have
a mouth full of backward facing teeth.

I've seen the pictures. Horrendous looking monster mouths. I'd want an
M-79 with a buckshot round.

John (Gun Nut) H.

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A friend's wife recently received her LTC and was shopping for her
first gun. She wanted a revolver, so I let her try my little .38
Chief's Special thinking she'd like the size and light weight.
Nope. She wanted something bigger. She ended up buying a S&W
Governor that shoot's regular 45 rounds and also 410 bore shotgun
rounds.

I tried it out last week for the first time. Very nice. The 410
rounds are weird but I could see them as being good for snakes. They
have 3 large pellets and a bunch of smaller ones. Spread is
obviously dependent on range but up close ( 3 yards) it was about 3
inches.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...2410_01_lg.jpg

On 6/26/13 1:39 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:01:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:39:30 -0400, wrote:



I know, I've got one, a revolver. I guess if I lived down there I'd want something that'd kill
pythons and boas on the first shot.


They usually use shotguns with bird shot (7 1/2 or 8)

It might be tough hitting a moving snake with a handgun. You really
don't want one of them to bite you. There is no venom but they do have
a mouth full of backward facing teeth.

I've seen the pictures. Horrendous looking monster mouths. I'd want an M-79 with a buckshot round.


My son in law has been out there with the hunters as the SFWMD
observer. He says the hardest part is finding them in the first place
and when you see it, you have to figure out which end is which since
you just see a little part of the body most of the time
They usually just shoot the part they see and get ready for a quick
follow up shot when they see the head.

The hard core rednecks will catch them alive and wrestle them down but
that is not the typical "guv'mint" hunter unless it is a herpetologist
doing a study..



Do they eat them, too? Do they taste like...chicken?

On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.



A performance advantage? Funny stuff.

Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like
..40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a
.357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.



A performance advantage? Funny stuff.

Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like
..40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2.

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I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and
even less about how to judge their "performance".
Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because
there are so many other factors involved.

However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity
squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity
of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than
the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table
in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much
higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German
guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity
squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity
of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than
the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table
in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much
higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German
guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357.

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Woops. forgot the link:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_trajectory_table.htm

On 6/25/13 1:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a
.357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.



A performance advantage? Funny stuff.

Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like
.40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2.

---------------------------------------------

I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and even
less about how to judge their "performance".
Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because there
are so many other factors involved.

However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity
squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of
a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the
mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the
provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher
muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is
right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357.




Oh, I am aware of the different properties of some different rounds, but
in shooting paper targets at a typical range distance, it doesn't matter
much to me. Perhaps the original poster is talking about the ability to
pierce and destroy flesh?

On 6/26/13 1:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:25:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.



A performance advantage? Funny stuff.

Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like
.40 S&W much, either. Do like the .357 mag in an S&W 27-2.

The 10mm can get you over 600 ft/lbs ME as will a .357
The 9mm, even in the +P loads are almost half that at around 360 and
the .45 +P squeaks out close to 500.

There used to be a big advantage in the bullets you could use in a
wheel gun but these days they have high performance bullets for SAs so
it just gets down to what you can load in the case and what SAAMI will
bless.



Wow...I could knock those empty sodapop cans over with more force!

On 6/26/2013 6:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/26/13 1:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:25:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this:

http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao

She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit.

John (Gun Nut) H.
I'm looking hard at this one...

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a
.357?

John (Gun Nut) H.

.357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm.
10mm/.40 closed that gap.



A performance advantage? Funny stuff.

Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like
.40 S&W much, either. Do like the .357 mag in an S&W 27-2.

The 10mm can get you over 600 ft/lbs ME as will a .357
The 9mm, even in the +P loads are almost half that at around 360 and
the .45 +P squeaks out close to 500.

There used to be a big advantage in the bullets you could use in a
wheel gun but these days they have high performance bullets for SAs so
it just gets down to what you can load in the case and what SAAMI will
bless.



Wow...I could knock those empty sodapop cans over with more force!

What advantage does your 45 have over the 9s that you had so lovingly
tweaked, and bragged about frequently.