In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making more laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law, what's one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you "children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law,
what's one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety presentations
at a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not
to teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun.
It's to educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe
handling should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a
special event, much like field trips, in which participation is
voluntary and with the permission of the parents for their kid to
attend.

On 6/16/2013 8:17 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law, what's
one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety presentations at
a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not to
teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun. It's to
educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe handling
should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a special
event, much like field trips, in which participation is voluntary and
with the permission of the parents for their kid to attend.

Why should the parents have any more say in this than they do in any
other issue shoved down the kids throats on a daily basis at school?

In article , says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law,
what's one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety presentations
at a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not
to teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun.
It's to educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe
handling should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a
special event, much like field trips, in which participation is
voluntary and with the permission of the parents for their kid to
attend.

They advocated and force sex educaiton classes on each of our dimes.

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 6/16/2013 8:17 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making
more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law,
what's
one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone
else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety
presentations at
a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not to
teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun. It's
to
educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe handling
should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a
special
event, much like field trips, in which participation is voluntary
and
with the permission of the parents for their kid to attend.

Why should the parents have any more say in this than they do in any
other issue shoved down the kids throats on a daily basis at school?

--------------------------------------

Like what for example?

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

In article ,
says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

(rant snipped for brevity)
------------------------------------



Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone
else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety
presentations
at a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not
to teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun.
It's to educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe
handling should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as
a
special event, much like field trips, in which participation is
voluntary and with the permission of the parents for their kid to
attend.

They advocated and force sex educaiton classes on each of our dimes.

-------------------------------------------------------

There has been some form of sex education in schools since I was in
junior high school .... and that's a long time ago.

I think gun safety is a little more controversial and I can see why
some people would object. There's obviously much debate going on
about what to do to reduce the number of accidental deaths and
injuries with strong feelings across the board regarding the subject.
All I was doing was putting an idea on the table for discussion since
so many are frustrated that nothing is being done and the only answer
to some is to ban guns altogether. That's not going to happen anytime
in the near or distant future, so we should be talking about what
*can* be done that does not impose hardships on anyone or take away
their right to gun ownership.

In article , says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 6/16/2013 8:17 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making
more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law,
what's
one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone
else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety
presentations at
a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not to
teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun. It's
to
educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe handling
should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a
special
event, much like field trips, in which participation is voluntary
and
with the permission of the parents for their kid to attend.

Why should the parents have any more say in this than they do in any
other issue shoved down the kids throats on a daily basis at school?

--------------------------------------

Like what for example?

For the past 7 or 8 years we have had to review, our childrens, daily lessons in school to
find out what they are being taught in public school. We live in the People's Repiblic of
Montgomery County in the Democratic Republic of Maryland. We have found that the teachers put
their own political views and biases into their interactions with their students on a daily
basis. When my oldest went off to college I told here that her primary goal is to get a
degree and that arguing with the professors about their professors political positions and
biases is a losing proposition. She soon learnd which professors are the leftists who are
just interested in creating more party line spouting leftists.

In article _
,
says...


Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety presentations
at a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not
to teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun.
It's to educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe
handling should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a
special event, much like field trips, in which participation is
voluntary and with the permission of the parents for their kid to
attend.

I have no problem with what other people do voluntarily.
But good luck with persuading most parents to expose
their kids to a "gun safety" class.
This is the first thing they'll see when they ponder it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY
One of your LEO guys. They'll never allow this in a
public school classroom full of kiddies.
And I don't get what you mean by "safe handling should
they come in the presence of one." That's hands on.
Like this LEO with his "unloaded" gun.
Oh, really?
But if anybody wants to send their kid to a class like
this, I have no problem with it as long as it's at the
parents discretion.
If I was a gun man who wanted my kids to be gun kiddies,
I'd want to teach them "handling" myself, and I'd NEVER
trust strangers to do it.
Don't care if others choose differently.

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


Why should the parents have any more say in this than they do in any
other issue shoved down the kids throats on a daily basis at school?

--------------------------------------

Like what for example?

For the past 7 or 8 years we have had to review, our childrens, daily
lessons in school to
find out what they are being taught in public school. We live in the
People's Repiblic of
Montgomery County in the Democratic Republic of Maryland. We have
found that the teachers put
their own political views and biases into their interactions with
their students on a daily
basis. When my oldest went off to college I told here that her primary
goal is to get a
degree and that arguing with the professors about their professors
political positions and
biases is a losing proposition. She soon learnd which professors are
the leftists who are
just interested in creating more party line spouting leftists.

-----------------------------------------------

That may be true or it may simply be your opinion but I doubt the
teacher's "political comments" show up anywhere on the school's
official curriculum. That's not what I am talking about. If I had
youngsters in public schools today and l found out a teacher was
pushing his or her political agenda instead of covering the approved
course material there would be hell to pay. It's up to you to stop
that nonsense.

College is a little different. I think we all were subjected to both
left and right views. I think by the time you are in college you
should be able to think for yourself and accept or reject influences
by the professors. Makes you think.

On 6/16/2013 9:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 6/16/2013 8:17 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article be98ef1d-78b5-4422-9810-4de11b3642d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

Maybe you missed it, but the majority has already

regulated and banned guns. That's why it's working for

them.

You must have missed it, but it's NOT working for them. Making more
laws doesn't work. The criminals are already breaking the law, what's
one more law to them?

It's funny how you are so adamant about how people aren't going to
teach *your* children about guns, then you let it slip that you
"children" are actually adults.
Seems that you don't actually have a dog in this hunt,
other than to promote your particular political agenda.
You should probably let people that actually have kids
decide, not some old fart with an unrealistic view of
the world like yourself.

Have a nice day.

You still don't get it. The majority are happy enough
with current gun regulations/bans. Otherwise there will
be more regulations/bans, not less. That's been the
course of history, more regulations and bans, with some
exceptions in some states. It's not been teaching "gun
safety" in public schools. Since you seem to be a gun
nut worried about criminals, and want all children taught
"gun safety" in public schools, I'll tell you what I told
the others.
You want "gun safety" safety courses taught in public
schools, then ****ing work for it. Good luck.
In the meantime, I don't give a **** if you mortgage your
house to lawfully load it up with guns to defend yourself
against criminals. None of my business.
Nobody's stopping you, and I couldn't care less how you
defend your little castle.
I have grandkids in public schools, and my children feel
the same way about this for their kids. So that argument
doesn't work, unless you say I shouldn't care about kin.
Now, I've got no problem with anybody taking their
youngsters to the range or woods and teaching them
whatever they want about guns.
Why are you gun nuts asking taxpayers to shoulder your
responsibility in training your kids skills the majority
of people feel are unnecessary or undesirable for their
kids?
That's what I've noticed about gun nuts. Always wanting
to tell other people how their lives should be conducted
around guns.
They're always right. They just can't ken to the fact
that the majority of people have nothing to do with guns.
Here I am saying I'm fine with them legally loading up
with all the guns they want. That's not enough for them.
They want to tell others how to raise their kids.
Now there's plenty of gun-owners who don't do this, and
just go about their business.
Then you got your gun nuts.
Saying I have a "political agenda." Thinking that "gun
safety" classes in public schools hasn't already been
decided, and what they think is right should just be
implemented despite majority opposition. Saying my very
real and fairly long life has been "unrealistic" despite
it working out just fine.
Go figure.

------------------------------------

Take a deep breath and relax.

Nobody is advocating gun safety classes on your dime or anyone else's.
There are plenty of qualified "gun nuts", including law enforcement
personnel who would be more than willing to make safety presentations at
a school or other extracurricular activity. And again, it's not to
teach youth about how to become proficient in the *use* a gun. It's to
educate them as to the dangers of firearms and their safe handling
should they come in the presence of one. I can see it as a special
event, much like field trips, in which participation is voluntary and
with the permission of the parents for their kid to attend.

Why should the parents have any more say in this than they do in any
other issue shoved down the kids throats on a daily basis at school?

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Like what for example?



Come back when you have been paying attention...