On Friday, June 14, 2013 9:14:41 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:


But gun nuts want to dictate that my children be exposed
to guns, despite my wishes.
Ain't gonna happen.

The fallacy in your views is that they are already exposed to guns. They are in the movies they watch, the video games they play, and the society they live in. Even the evening news. They are all loaded with images of guns being used the wrong way. If you think you are keeping them safe by pretending they don't exist, well, you're wrong. Hope it doesn't cost them.

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I see. There is rarely a day that goes by without some news
regarding gun control issues or coverage of a gun related accident
in
the media. That's what I am referring to in the statement
"firearms
and their use are so prevalent in our society"

But it appears your solution is to stick your head in the sand and
pretend it doesn't exist. Apparently in your mind "It doesn't apply
or affect me, so there's no need to be involved in the solution".
Sounds like a typical response of the "Me" generation.


No, guns haven't affected me at all. And I'll do my best
to keep it that way. I'm here saying me and countless
others will resist any attempt to foist guns on our kids
in school in the guise of teaching "gun safety." You can
teach your kids about guns all you want and I couldn't
care less. Or about safe "drug use" for all I care.
If you think me stating MY view about public education is
"sticking my head in the sand" you're not very logical.
Keeping guns from criminals and psychos is an entirely
different issue than foisting guns into public education.
The law part interests me because it's entertaining
hearing all the illogical bull****, lying and hypocrisy.

I don't think guns and their ownership by private citizens will ever
be, nor should it ever be prohibited. Like it or not, they are part
of your life, whether you choose to own one or not.

What the **** did I just tell you!? You hard of hearing?
Guns play NO ****ING ROLE IN MY LIFE. NADA! The only
time I even think about them is when I feel like
discussing them in a forum full of gun nuts. You just
can't understand that I guess. But it's true for me and
for the great majority of people.
IF YOU DON'T OWN A GUN YOU DON'T NEED "GUN SAFETY."
Most people DON'T own a gun, and even fewer kids.
Hey, why don't you suggest "safe fishing" courses for
schools. Makes more sense. Abu-Garcia will love you.

So what's wrong
with some general education in the safe handling and dangers
associated with them so people are better informed overall? If the
only input young people receive is in Hollywood movies or some video
game I don't think they are getting a realistic or helpful image of
what firearm ownership is all about.

What's wrong with it? I don't ****ing want my kids
exposed to guns. THAT'S WHAT WRONG WITH IT. When
they're adults, they can make their own choices.
Take it up with your local school board if you like.
I don't give a **** how many guns you buy, or how you
want to educate your kids.
You're talking about public schooling, and when I express
my view of what's a no-go for my kids, you accuse me of
"head in sand" and "me generation."
Well, thanks for the childish insults. Good luck with the
school board. You'll find plenty like me at the
meetings, but the moms will give you even more hell for
your idea, which your knee correctly informed you was
stupid.
You ain't gonna have any fun at all with it. It's a
bull**** idea only entertained by gun nuts.

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Wow. I guess you told me.

I am not advocating gun ownership by anyone who doesn't want one. I
am suggesting a possible positive approach to a problem that might
instill awareness of the serious and potentially dangerous nature of
firearms in young people and maybe generate some respect for them so
if they are exposed to them at a friend's house or somewhere outside
of your personal control, they will have some knowledge. Apparently
your solution to this problem is to pretend the issue doesn't exist,
as evidenced by your shout, "IF YOU DON'T OWN A GUN YOU DON'T NEED
"GUN SAFETY".

The rest of your rants are almost comical if they weren't so misguided
and sad.

On 6/14/2013 8:51 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article sKudnS4
,
says...


I see. There is rarely a day that goes by without some news
regarding gun control issues or coverage of a gun related accident in
the media. That's what I am referring to in the statement "firearms
and their use are so prevalent in our society"

But it appears your solution is to stick your head in the sand and
pretend it doesn't exist. Apparently in your mind "It doesn't apply
or affect me, so there's no need to be involved in the solution".
Sounds like a typical response of the "Me" generation.


No, guns haven't affected me at all. And I'll do my best
to keep it that way. I'm here saying me and countless
others will resist any attempt to foist guns on our kids
in school in the guise of teaching "gun safety." You can
teach your kids about guns all you want and I couldn't
care less. Or about safe "drug use" for all I care.
If you think me stating MY view about public education is
"sticking my head in the sand" you're not very logical.
Keeping guns from criminals and psychos is an entirely
different issue than foisting guns into public education.
The law part interests me because it's entertaining
hearing all the illogical bull****, lying and hypocrisy.

I don't think guns and their ownership by private citizens will ever
be, nor should it ever be prohibited. Like it or not, they are part
of your life, whether you choose to own one or not.

What the **** did I just tell you!? You hard of hearing?
Guns play NO ****ING ROLE IN MY LIFE. NADA! The only
time I even think about them is when I feel like
discussing them in a forum full of gun nuts. You just
can't understand that I guess. But it's true for me and
for the great majority of people.
IF YOU DON'T OWN A GUN YOU DON'T NEED "GUN SAFETY."
Most people DON'T own a gun, and even fewer kids.
Hey, why don't you suggest "safe fishing" courses for
schools. Makes more sense. Abu-Garcia will love you.

So what's wrong
with some general education in the safe handling and dangers
associated with them so people are better informed overall? If the
only input young people receive is in Hollywood movies or some video
game I don't think they are getting a realistic or helpful image of
what firearm ownership is all about.

What's wrong with it? I don't ****ing want my kids
exposed to guns. THAT'S WHAT WRONG WITH IT. When
they're adults, they can make their own choices.

So, you are for parental control of what gets taught in the school
system as long as it goes along with your own particular point of view?
I get it..

In article f0490a4a-a4df-4c71-bbcd-
, says...

On Friday, June 14, 2013 9:14:41 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:


But gun nuts want to dictate that my children be exposed
to guns, despite my wishes.
Ain't gonna happen.

The fallacy in your views is that they are already exposed to guns.
They are in the movies they watch, the video games they
play, and the society they live in. Even the evening
news. They are all loaded with images of guns being
used the wrong way.
If you think you are keeping them safe by pretending
they don't exist, well, you're wrong. Hope it doesn't
cost them.

You seem to think that TV/movie/video-game guns are real.
They're not.
Or that I didn't tell my kids if they ever saw a "real"
gun except on the hip of a LEO, run away and report to
me. Well, I did, and they never reported seeing a gun.
Not one god damned time.
They're adults now, and one of them even has a gun all
for himself.
No "gun safety" class is ever going to prevent some
mother****er from shooting somebody. It'll just make
kids think guns can be "safe." They're not. I suspect
you know that already.
Guns are for adults. If you want to teach your kids "gun
safety," go for it. I'll decide what my kids get taught.
Don't need gun nuts telling me how to do that, and I'm
not telling them how to teach their kids.

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
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In article f0490a4a-a4df-4c71-bbcd-
, says...

On Friday, June 14, 2013 9:14:41 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:


But gun nuts want to dictate that my children be exposed
to guns, despite my wishes.
Ain't gonna happen.

The fallacy in your views is that they are already exposed to guns.
They are in the movies they watch, the video games they
play, and the society they live in. Even the evening
news. They are all loaded with images of guns being
used the wrong way.
If you think you are keeping them safe by pretending
they don't exist, well, you're wrong. Hope it doesn't
cost them.

You seem to think that TV/movie/video-game guns are real.
They're not.
Or that I didn't tell my kids if they ever saw a "real"
gun except on the hip of a LEO, run away and report to
me. Well, I did, and they never reported seeing a gun.
Not one god damned time.
They're adults now, and one of them even has a gun all
for himself.
No "gun safety" class is ever going to prevent some
mother****er from shooting somebody. It'll just make
kids think guns can be "safe." They're not. I suspect
you know that already.
Guns are for adults. If you want to teach your kids "gun
safety," go for it. I'll decide what my kids get taught.
Don't need gun nuts telling me how to do that, and I'm
not telling them how to teach their kids.

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You strike me as being the type of angry person who should never, ever
consider owning a gun.

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You strike me as being the type of angry person who should never, ever
consider owning a gun.

Don't know why, unless you're just taking jabs.
I've owned a couple guns, and even hunted long ago.
If I felt I needed one, I'd buy one.
We were talking about teaching children "gun safety" in
public schools. I think it's a lame-brained idea.
You don't agree. Tough ****.
But you can just go ahead and call me "angry," "head in
the sand," and "me generation" because we disagree.
That's your call.

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So, you are for parental control of what gets taught in the school
system as long as it goes along with your own particular point of view?

Yup. And so far I'm getting my way, because my views are
mainstream.

I get it..

Indeed, you do.

On Friday, June 14, 2013 10:02:16 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
In article f0490a4a-a4df-4c71-bbcd-

, says...



On Friday, June 14, 2013 9:14:41 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:





But gun nuts want to dictate that my children be exposed

to guns, despite my wishes.

Ain't gonna happen.



The fallacy in your views is that they are already exposed to guns.

They are in the movies they watch, the video games they

play, and the society they live in. Even the evening

news. They are all loaded with images of guns being

used the wrong way.

If you think you are keeping them safe by pretending

they don't exist, well, you're wrong. Hope it doesn't

cost them.



You seem to think that TV/movie/video-game guns are real.

They're not.

Or that I didn't tell my kids if they ever saw a "real"

gun except on the hip of a LEO, run away and report to

me. Well, I did, and they never reported seeing a gun.

Not one god damned time.

They're adults now, and one of them even has a gun all

for himself.

No "gun safety" class is ever going to prevent some

mother****er from shooting somebody. It'll just make

kids think guns can be "safe." They're not. I suspect

you know that already.

Guns are for adults. If you want to teach your kids "gun

safety," go for it. I'll decide what my kids get taught.

Don't need gun nuts telling me how to do that, and I'm

not telling them how to teach their kids.

Kids are not taught about guns (except by Hollywood and video games), and in increasing numbers are killing each other with guns. I was taught as a young child about guns, as were most "back in the day", and those problems weren't anywhere close to as prevalent.

What you say worked for your kids sure doesn't seem to be working for a large majority of the population.

In article , says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
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In article f0490a4a-a4df-4c71-bbcd-
, says...

On Friday, June 14, 2013 9:14:41 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:


But gun nuts want to dictate that my children be exposed
to guns, despite my wishes.
Ain't gonna happen.

The fallacy in your views is that they are already exposed to guns.
They are in the movies they watch, the video games they
play, and the society they live in. Even the evening
news. They are all loaded with images of guns being
used the wrong way.
If you think you are keeping them safe by pretending
they don't exist, well, you're wrong. Hope it doesn't
cost them.

You seem to think that TV/movie/video-game guns are real.
They're not.
Or that I didn't tell my kids if they ever saw a "real"
gun except on the hip of a LEO, run away and report to
me. Well, I did, and they never reported seeing a gun.
Not one god damned time.
They're adults now, and one of them even has a gun all
for himself.
No "gun safety" class is ever going to prevent some
mother****er from shooting somebody. It'll just make
kids think guns can be "safe." They're not. I suspect
you know that already.
Guns are for adults. If you want to teach your kids "gun
safety," go for it. I'll decide what my kids get taught.
Don't need gun nuts telling me how to do that, and I'm
not telling them how to teach their kids.

-----------------------------------------------

You strike me as being the type of angry person who should never, ever
consider owning a gun.

Or a knife.

Or a baseball bat.

Or a frying pan.

Or a ... the list goes on.

In article ,
says...

On 6/14/2013 8:51 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article sKudnS4
,
says...


I see. There is rarely a day that goes by without some news
regarding gun control issues or coverage of a gun related accident in
the media. That's what I am referring to in the statement "firearms
and their use are so prevalent in our society"

But it appears your solution is to stick your head in the sand and
pretend it doesn't exist. Apparently in your mind "It doesn't apply
or affect me, so there's no need to be involved in the solution".
Sounds like a typical response of the "Me" generation.


No, guns haven't affected me at all. And I'll do my best
to keep it that way. I'm here saying me and countless
others will resist any attempt to foist guns on our kids
in school in the guise of teaching "gun safety." You can
teach your kids about guns all you want and I couldn't
care less. Or about safe "drug use" for all I care.
If you think me stating MY view about public education is
"sticking my head in the sand" you're not very logical.
Keeping guns from criminals and psychos is an entirely
different issue than foisting guns into public education.
The law part interests me because it's entertaining
hearing all the illogical bull****, lying and hypocrisy.

I don't think guns and their ownership by private citizens will ever
be, nor should it ever be prohibited. Like it or not, they are part
of your life, whether you choose to own one or not.

What the **** did I just tell you!? You hard of hearing?
Guns play NO ****ING ROLE IN MY LIFE. NADA! The only
time I even think about them is when I feel like
discussing them in a forum full of gun nuts. You just
can't understand that I guess. But it's true for me and
for the great majority of people.
IF YOU DON'T OWN A GUN YOU DON'T NEED "GUN SAFETY."
Most people DON'T own a gun, and even fewer kids.
Hey, why don't you suggest "safe fishing" courses for
schools. Makes more sense. Abu-Garcia will love you.

So what's wrong
with some general education in the safe handling and dangers
associated with them so people are better informed overall? If the
only input young people receive is in Hollywood movies or some video
game I don't think they are getting a realistic or helpful image of
what firearm ownership is all about.

What's wrong with it? I don't ****ing want my kids
exposed to guns. THAT'S WHAT WRONG WITH IT. When
they're adults, they can make their own choices.

So, you are for parental control of what gets taught in the school
system as long as it goes along with your own particular point of view?
I get it..

They expose kids to guns in school????