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F.O.A.D. March 31st 13 11:51 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.


My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.

Hank©[_2_] April 1st 13 12:01 AM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 3/31/2013 5:16 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 2:58:29 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 3:19 PM, J Herring wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




On 3/31/13 7:44 AM, J Herring wrote:


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:




On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote:


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote:


...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife


loves the size.




While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:
http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td



Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear


decides to break into the house.




Salmonbait




--


Hope you're having a spectacular day!




Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag.




You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That


might be interesting!




Salmonbait




--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.




Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun.




Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size.




On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want


anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!






Salmonbait




--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.








There is *no* safety on that pistol.




Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.




Now go out and have a great Easter Sunday!






Salmonbait




--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.








You really have trouble with language. SIG makes fine weapons. But the


particular pistol you bought does *not* have a real safety. A real


safety prevents the trigger from being pulled to the point where the


weapon will fire.




You and S&W define 'safety' differently, but, ESADAFOD, you are correct of course.




I guess I'll just have to buy a couple CZ's and have a few thousand dollars worth of modifications


done to them.






Salmonbait




--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.






You spent less time picking out your new pistol than I would deciding

whether I wanted a ham sandwich on rye or whole wheat. My statement

about safeties stands. If you can pull the trigger and make the gun go

bang, it isn't a safety.



A stock steel CZ-75 out of the box will outshoot that P250 of yours. I

had a highly accurate Sig X-5, and my CZ, which cost half as much, will

outshoot it.


Hatteras / 4 tax liens / 2 bankruptcies / red barn/ owls/ bobcat/ lobsta boat


/ strip mall/ young southern debutante/ dined with every president
since truman/

twin screw diesel something or other racing trawler/ Toyota SUV/ deck/
generator/

storm door/ coffee maker/ grungy sink/ on and on



Tim April 1st 13 02:37 AM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On Mar 31, 5:51*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:









On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank " *wrote in message
traweb.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:


On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.


Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.


----------------------------------------------------


Except those that are legal to buy in MA. * Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. * The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. *The Bodyguard *also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. * But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. * Makes no sense.


Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.


Here are the specs on the PPK.


Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:


http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html


Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait


--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.


My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait


--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


Harry, I'd say he knows a lot more about the M101A1and M144 than
anybody else here. Not counting M41's and 48's

Heck, Harry, there's people who have retired from the armed services
who never picked up a pistol in their entire career. My dad served in
the Philippines in ww2 and never carried a pistol. He sure shot a lot
of rounds though an M1 carbine, and an M3 'grease gun' though.

Meyer[_2_] April 1st 13 02:55 AM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 3/31/2013 6:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as
the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull
stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is
why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall
handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is
not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is
inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for
them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and
neither have a safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.


My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a
pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


The real point is under your hat, asshole.

J Herring April 1st 13 02:13 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:51:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.


My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


It's for damn sure I don't know 2% of what you know about any subject! Your knowledge of everything
is simply astonishing. You point that out to us on a daily, nay hourly, basis.

Now, how would you treat a pistol with a safety differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 1st 13 02:24 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 4/1/2013 9:13 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:51:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.

My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


It's for damn sure I don't know 2% of what you know about any subject! Your knowledge of everything
is simply astonishing. You point that out to us on a daily, nay hourly, basis.

Now, how would you treat a pistol with a safety differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


He would dry fire it going "do you know what that sound is?" over and
over again and again weather it had a safety or not. harry uses his guns
to make himself feel safe and tough, he just won't admit it here.. LOL!

Hank©[_2_] April 1st 13 02:40 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 4/1/2013 9:13 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:51:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.

My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


It's for damn sure I don't know 2% of what you know about any subject! Your knowledge of everything
is simply astonishing. You point that out to us on a daily, nay hourly, basis.

Now, how would you treat a pistol with a safety differently from one without?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


It's obvious that you need to sign up for the Best In The World Harry N
Krause Expert Gun Handling And Safety Course.

You need to learn from the best John. Fergit everything you learned in
the Army and let Krausie mold you into the gun happy schizophrenic
paranoid, narcissistic, egotistical asshole clone of himself, that he
wants you to be.

Be all that you can be

F.O.A.D. April 1st 13 03:42 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 3/31/13 9:37 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:51 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:









On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank " wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:


On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.


Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.


----------------------------------------------------


Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.


Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.


Here are the specs on the PPK.


Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:


http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html


Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


Salmonbait


--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Which has nothing to do with the point.


My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


Salmonbait


--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


Harry, I'd say he knows a lot more about the M101A1and M144 than
anybody else here. Not counting M41's and 48's

Heck, Harry, there's people who have retired from the armed services
who never picked up a pistol in their entire career. My dad served in
the Philippines in ww2 and never carried a pistol. He sure shot a lot
of rounds though an M1 carbine, and an M3 'grease gun' though.



The subject under discussion here was pistols, not howitzers or assault
rifles, and, more specifically, the safeties or lack of same on those
pistols. Surely Herring was issued a sidearm and training for it during
his time in our war against the people of Vietnam.

F.O.A.D. April 1st 13 03:55 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On 4/1/13 9:13 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:51:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
b.com...


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!


There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.


If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

----------------------------------------------------

Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.



Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.


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Which has nothing to do with the point.

My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?


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The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


It's for damn sure I don't know 2% of what you know about any subject! Your knowledge of everything
is simply astonishing. You point that out to us on a daily, nay hourly, basis.

Now, how would you treat a pistol with a safety differently from one without?


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It is clear I know a hell of a lot more about semi-auto pistols than you
do, and your arrogance will keep you ignorant.

J Herring April 1st 13 03:56 PM

Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
 
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:42:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 9:37 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 5:51 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/31/13 5:02 PM, J Herring wrote:









On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 3:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:33:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"Hank " wrote in message
b.com...

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:

On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the
trigger guard. I wouldn't want
anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger!

There is *no* safety on that pistol.

Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****.

If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols
are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff
double action triggers to prevent accidental firing.

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Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all,
but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so
many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety
button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the
trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a
safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no
exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here,
don't have a safety. Makes no sense.

Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling
a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms
have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a
safety.

Here are the specs on the PPK.

Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to
pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled
back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in
the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W
revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html

Both of my revolvers are S&W, both are double or single action, and neither have a safety.

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Which has nothing to do with the point.

My goodness, Foaesad, just what is your point? How would you treat a pistol with a safety
differently from one without?

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The point is that despite your "career" in the Army, you don't know
jack**** about pistols.


Harry, I'd say he knows a lot more about the M101A1and M144 than
anybody else here. Not counting M41's and 48's

Heck, Harry, there's people who have retired from the armed services
who never picked up a pistol in their entire career. My dad served in
the Philippines in ww2 and never carried a pistol. He sure shot a lot
of rounds though an M1 carbine, and an M3 'grease gun' though.



The subject under discussion here was pistols, not howitzers or assault
rifles, and, more specifically, the safeties or lack of same on those
pistols. Surely Herring was issued a sidearm and training for it during
his time in our war against the people of Vietnam.


How would you treat a pistol with a safety differently from one without?

And, it's about time, given your support for it, that you start referring to the Vietnam conflict as
'our war'.


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