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Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
....yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife
loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet: http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/2013 10:09 AM, J Herring wrote:
....yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet: http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Are you sure you wouldn't want something bigger to face down a grizzly with? |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 10:09 AM, J Herring wrote:
...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet: http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Spend the money on spelling lessons. It's grizzly bear, not grisly bear. And I'm not surprised your wife likes the size. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote:
...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote:
...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachment-1.jpg |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachment-1.jpg Or get a wide, flat trigger. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Mar 30, 2:55*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac... Or get a wide, flat trigger. Harry, the trigger shoe is a cheap and effective option. I have them on three pistols and two high powered rifles equipped with them. 10-14$ ea.beats a trigger assembly overhaul, and you can install or remove in a minute too |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 4:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 2:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac... Or get a wide, flat trigger. Harry, the trigger shoe is a cheap and effective option. I have them on three pistols and two high powered rifles equipped with them. 10-14$ ea.beats a trigger assembly overhaul, and you can install or remove in a minute too I guess. The wide, straight trigger on my CZ was an option when I ordered the pistol, and wanted it converted to SAO and a light and fast trigger. It wasn't an expensive option, though, about $30 to $35 installed. My Ruger .22LR has the standard Ruger trigger, a curved trigger but wide. These "shoes" don't make the trigger wider than the trigger guard, do they? I've been thinking about getting a suppressor for my Mark III Target Ruger. I have to fill out the Class III forms but the suppressors aren't too expensive. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 3/30/13 4:22 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 2:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac... Or get a wide, flat trigger. Harry, the trigger shoe is a cheap and effective option. I have them on three pistols and two high powered rifles equipped with them. 10-14$ ea.beats a trigger assembly overhaul, and you can install or remove in a minute too I guess. The wide, straight trigger on my CZ was an option when I ordered the pistol, and wanted it converted to SAO and a light and fast trigger. It wasn't an expensive option, though, about $30 to $35 installed. My Ruger .22LR has the standard Ruger trigger, a curved trigger but wide. These "shoes" don't make the trigger wider than the trigger guard, do they? I've been thinking about getting a suppressor for my Mark III Target Ruger. I have to fill out the Class III forms but the suppressors aren't too expensive. =============================== Have you ever tried any of the sub-sonic ammo? I haven't and am curious how much they diminish the "crack" when they are fired. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 3/30/13 4:22 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 2:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac... Or get a wide, flat trigger. Harry, the trigger shoe is a cheap and effective option. I have them on three pistols and two high powered rifles equipped with them. 10-14$ ea.beats a trigger assembly overhaul, and you can install or remove in a minute too I guess. The wide, straight trigger on my CZ was an option when I ordered the pistol, and wanted it converted to SAO and a light and fast trigger. It wasn't an expensive option, though, about $30 to $35 installed. My Ruger .22LR has the standard Ruger trigger, a curved trigger but wide. These "shoes" don't make the trigger wider than the trigger guard, do they? I've been thinking about getting a suppressor for my Mark III Target Ruger. I have to fill out the Class III forms but the suppressors aren't too expensive. =============================== Have you ever tried any of the sub-sonic ammo? I haven't and am curious how much they diminish the "crack" when they are fired. It's a noticeable difference, but they're still pretty loud rounds. I've seen demos of suppressors with subsonic rounds, and on a .22LR, the sound is still there, but it's very soft and does not sound anything like a firearm. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/2013 4:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/30/13 4:22 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 2:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 3:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac... Or get a wide, flat trigger. Harry, the trigger shoe is a cheap and effective option. I have them on three pistols and two high powered rifles equipped with them. 10-14$ ea.beats a trigger assembly overhaul, and you can install or remove in a minute too I guess. The wide, straight trigger on my CZ was an option when I ordered the pistol, and wanted it converted to SAO and a light and fast trigger. It wasn't an expensive option, though, about $30 to $35 installed. My Ruger .22LR has the standard Ruger trigger, a curved trigger but wide. These "shoes" don't make the trigger wider than the trigger guard, do they? I've been thinking about getting a suppressor for my Mark III Target Ruger. I have to fill out the Class III forms but the suppressors aren't too expensive. A suppressor. Whatever for? Oh wait. I'm beginning to see why it's so important for you to have varmints hanging around your house. Shame on you. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/30/13 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote: Have you ever tried any of the sub-sonic ammo? I haven't and am curious how much they diminish the "crack" when they are fired. It's a noticeable difference, but they're still pretty loud rounds. I've seen demos of suppressors with subsonic rounds, and on a .22LR, the sound is still there, but it's very soft and does not sound anything like a firearm. ---------------------------------------- I bought a Ruger Air Magnum Pellet rifle a couple of months ago thinking I could use it for target practice on my property. The nearest neighbor's house is about 400 feet from where I'd be shooting and in the opposite direction of where I'd be aiming, so I figured it wouldn't be a bother to him. Boy, was I surprised. The damn thing is louder than the Marlin .22 lever action I have. Muzzle velocity is actually higher. 1200 fps for the standard lead pellets and 1400 fps for the light, alloy pellets. Very accurate, but it weighs a ton. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/airgundepot_2254_185840498 |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 5:07 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/30/13 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote: Have you ever tried any of the sub-sonic ammo? I haven't and am curious how much they diminish the "crack" when they are fired. It's a noticeable difference, but they're still pretty loud rounds. I've seen demos of suppressors with subsonic rounds, and on a .22LR, the sound is still there, but it's very soft and does not sound anything like a firearm. ---------------------------------------- I bought a Ruger Air Magnum Pellet rifle a couple of months ago thinking I could use it for target practice on my property. The nearest neighbor's house is about 400 feet from where I'd be shooting and in the opposite direction of where I'd be aiming, so I figured it wouldn't be a bother to him. Boy, was I surprised. The damn thing is louder than the Marlin .22 lever action I have. Muzzle velocity is actually higher. 1200 fps for the standard lead pellets and 1400 fps for the light, alloy pellets. Very accurate, but it weighs a ton. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/airgundepot_2254_185840498 Aging minds think alike. I'm interested in the suppressor because there's an area, a dry creek bed, on our property that is legally distant enough from neighboring properties, to be used as a target range. The creek bed is 15 to 20 feet deep where I'd like to set up a range, and it curves where the backstop would be. Ideal. Except...I don't want to disturb the neighbors and...the snakes...I am sure are down there somewhere. :) A suppressor would allow me to use my .22lr pistol and rifle down there. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/2013 5:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/30/13 5:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/30/13 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote: Have you ever tried any of the sub-sonic ammo? I haven't and am curious how much they diminish the "crack" when they are fired. It's a noticeable difference, but they're still pretty loud rounds. I've seen demos of suppressors with subsonic rounds, and on a .22LR, the sound is still there, but it's very soft and does not sound anything like a firearm. ---------------------------------------- I bought a Ruger Air Magnum Pellet rifle a couple of months ago thinking I could use it for target practice on my property. The nearest neighbor's house is about 400 feet from where I'd be shooting and in the opposite direction of where I'd be aiming, so I figured it wouldn't be a bother to him. Boy, was I surprised. The damn thing is louder than the Marlin .22 lever action I have. Muzzle velocity is actually higher. 1200 fps for the standard lead pellets and 1400 fps for the light, alloy pellets. Very accurate, but it weighs a ton. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/airgundepot_2254_185840498 Aging minds think alike. I'm interested in the suppressor because there's an area, a dry creek bed, on our property that is legally distant enough from neighboring properties, to be used as a target range. The creek bed is 15 to 20 feet deep where I'd like to set up a range, and it curves where the backstop would be. Ideal. Except...I don't want to disturb the neighbors and...the snakes...I am sure are down there somewhere. :) A suppressor would allow me to use my .22lr pistol and rifle down there. If it's not on an authorized range you are not allowed to fire a gun in Maryland. I suppose hunting is illegal in Maryland as well. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachment-1.jpg I'll check that out. Thanks! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachment-1.jpg Oh, and you're right about the Kimber being way overpriced, but it is a work of art. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:00:26 -0400, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachment-1.jpg I'll check that out. Thanks! Salmonbait I just looked, and the trigger on the Sig is about 3/8" wide. Don't think an adapter would be much better. Same is true of the M&P9. Both have pretty wide triggers. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Mar 30, 5:25*pm, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:00:26 -0400, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09*am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td John, a Kimber is one of the finest of the finest. But I think they're a bit over priced. That is, unless you simply must drive a Rolls Royce. ?;^ ) But one thing you might add to what you have is a "trigger shoe" No more than they cost,they can really help your accuracy. about any gun dealer carries them. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...14EBR-RI/attac.... I'll check that out. Thanks! Salmonbait I just looked, and the trigger on the Sig is about 3/8" wide. Don't think an adapter would be much better. Same is true of the M&P9. Both have pretty wide triggers. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. You'd be surprised. You might take one of the guns to a local dealer and install one and see how it feels. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Mar 30, 4:59*pm, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. *But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 4:59*pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. *But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. There is *no* safety on that pistol. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. Now go out and have a great Easter Sunday! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/2013 7:44 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. Now go out and have a great Easter Sunday! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 7:44 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. Now go out and have a great Easter Sunday! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. You really have trouble with language. SIG makes fine weapons. But the particular pistol you bought does *not* have a real safety. A real safety prevents the trigger from being pulled to the point where the weapon will fire. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/2013 8:01 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 7:44 AM, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 4:59 pm, J Herring wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 30, 9:09 am, J Herring wrote: ...yesterday at Gander Mountain. Haven't fired it yet, but it sure is a nice feeling pistol. My wife loves the size. While there I noticed one of these in the cabinet:http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Now I'm drooling. I don't have a .45, but think I need one for protection in case a grisly bear decides to break into the house. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Congrat's on the 250. But for bear you might consider a .44 mag. You're most likely correct. But, I can buy a kit that changes this thing from a 9mm to a .45. That might be interesting! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Look at the price of the kit and weigh out the option of another gun. Yeah. I wouldn't want to make this Sig a .45. I'd rather it be full size. On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. Now go out and have a great Easter Sunday! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. You really have trouble with language. SIG makes fine weapons. But the particular pistol you bought does *not* have a real safety. A real safety prevents the trigger from being pulled to the point where the weapon will fire. You miss the whole point of having a trigger. Pull it and the gun goes bang. Don't pull it and it won't go bang. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 10:33 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 10:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 10:33 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ Gosh, even almighty Kimber has safeties on its concealed carry semi-autos: http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/ultra-carry-ii |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/2013 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Kahr arms has models they specifically modified for Massachusetts. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Ruger single 10 revolver that I have is single action only. The S&W "AirLite" 38 Special is double action but it is an older gun, made in 2002. I think the new versions sold in MA may be single action only or may have a lock. The Walther PPK/S is new and the manual describes the lever as being a "safety". It has the red dot that is exposed when in the firing position. The trigger will not pull if it's in the "safe" position. However, I think it's primary (and original) purpose was as a decocker. By preventing the trigger from being pulled in the "decocked" position in the new ones is what allowed them to remain MA and CA compliant. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/2013 10:33 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html Beretta calls their decocker a safety-decocking lever on the 92 series. Just because you won't leave home without your depends, doesn't mean everyone should wear them. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 10:56 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 3/31/13 10:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message b.com... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:01:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/30/13 7:43 PM, J Herring wrote: On both the Sig and the M&P the trigger is damn near as wide as the trigger guard. I wouldn't want anything any wider, 'cause the safety is the trigger! There is *no* safety on that pistol. Yup, ESAD, compared to your stuff this is a piece of ****. If the bozo did some checking, he'd find that most of the CCW pistols are sans safety levers and rely on internal safetys and long pull stiff double action triggers to prevent accidental firing. ---------------------------------------------------- Except those that are legal to buy in MA. Haven't checked them all, but I think a safety is a requirement to be MA compliant which is why so many semi-automatic pistols are not available up here. The safety button on the Walther is really a de-cocker, but you can't pull the trigger with it in the "safe" position. The Bodyguard also has a safety in addition to a long trigger pull, double action only and no exposed hammer. But revolvers, that are much more available here, don't have a safety. Makes no sense. Lots of semi auto "carry" sized pistols have safeties. I recall handling a Walther PPK that had a traditional safety. All my semi-auto firearms have traditional safeties. My SIG X-5 had a safety. A decocker is not a safety. Here are the specs on the PPK. Aren't most revolvers sold today single action? That means you have to pull the hammer back before you can fire. If the hammer is not pulled back, the trigger won't fire the weapon. Thus, the safety is inherent in the design, as it were. That said, I've seen safeties on some S&W revolvers, and there is a company that makes a retrofit safety for them: http://www.tarnhelm.com/murabito.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Ruger single 10 revolver that I have is single action only. The S&W "AirLite" 38 Special is double action but it is an older gun, made in 2002. I think the new versions sold in MA may be single action only or may have a lock. The Walther PPK/S is new and the manual describes the lever as being a "safety". It has the red dot that is exposed when in the firing position. The trigger will not pull if it's in the "safe" position. However, I think it's primary (and original) purpose was as a decocker. By preventing the trigger from being pulled in the "decocked" position in the new ones is what allowed them to remain MA and CA compliant. If you can't pull the trigger, then, I presume, it qualifies as a safety. I wouldn't mind having one of these in 7.65: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6EGFtTbhY |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
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Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ ------------------------------------------- I've heard that CZ may be trying to get some of their handguns on the MA compliant list, but as of last month no CZ models are listed: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster03-2013.pdf |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
On 3/31/13 11:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ ------------------------------------------- I've heard that CZ may be trying to get some of their handguns on the MA compliant list, but as of last month no CZ models are listed: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster03-2013.pdf Well, it sure isn't for lack of a safety, since all the Glock models seem to be compliant. In Europe, Glock supplies pistols to police departments *with* safeties, if the department wants them. But not here. There are some aftermarket safeties available for Glock pistols. I was shooting a high-priced SIG X-5 when at a match, I happened to swap pistols for a few mags with a guy shooting a much less expensive CZ. I was impressed with how much tighter the CZ slide locked up with its frame, and the "innards" on the CZ were at least as finely machined as those on the SIG. The SIG was "done up" in buff stainless steel, and that usually produces a good-looking firearm. But the quality of both pistols was pretty much a push. And, for me, the CZ outshot my SIG. That's when I decided to sell the SIG and get a CZ. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ ------------------------------------------- I've heard that CZ may be trying to get some of their handguns on the MA compliant list, but as of last month no CZ models are listed: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster03-2013.pdf I sure am glad I didn't move to Mass several years ago. You guys only get to purchase crap. |
Picked up the Sig Sauer P250
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 3/31/13 11:19 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features, including an actual safety: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ ------------------------------------------- I've heard that CZ may be trying to get some of their handguns on the MA compliant list, but as of last month no CZ models are listed: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster03-2013.pdf Well, it sure isn't for lack of a safety, since all the Glock models seem to be compliant. In Europe, Glock supplies pistols to police departments *with* safeties, if the department wants them. But not here. There are some aftermarket safeties available for Glock pistols. I was shooting a high-priced SIG X-5 when at a match, I happened to swap pistols for a few mags with a guy shooting a much less expensive CZ. I was impressed with how much tighter the CZ slide locked up with its frame, and the "innards" on the CZ were at least as finely machined as those on the SIG. The SIG was "done up" in buff stainless steel, and that usually produces a good-looking firearm. But the quality of both pistols was pretty much a push. And, for me, the CZ outshot my SIG. That's when I decided to sell the SIG and get a CZ. -------------------------------------------------------- I think some Glocks have been recently added after Glock added another safety feature of some type. But, just because the gun is on the list in the link I provided, doesn't necessarily mean you can buy one. That's what is so screwed up here. There is a MA agency (forget what it's called) that tests guns submitted by the manufacturer for certification of being MA compliant. They test for safety, drop tests, etc. The manufacturer must submit something like five guns of each model for testing. But the MA Attorney General's office also has a say in what is "MA compliant" and it's a very subjective determination. In some cases a particular Ruger model was rejected because they didn't like where the serial number was put. In other cases, a stainless version of a gun model was rejected but the blued version was ok. As a result, many manufacturers have basically told MA to "KMA" and don't bother even trying to market their guns here. In order for a dealer to legally sell post-grandfathered guns, the model must be approved by both the testing agency and the AG's office. Politics, as usual, at play. |
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