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On 1/11/2013 7:36 PM, Meyer wrote: On 1/11/2013 6:28 PM, ESAD wrote: On 1/11/13 6:24 PM, JustWait wrote: On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) What do you think happens when the religious crazies get their hands on possible acolytes? The pressure they exert when they have people in their clutches is enormous. Your problem, aside from your pigheadedness and general ignorance, is that you think (ha!) that experiences you haven't had couldn't have possibly happened to others. When does your daughter leave for military boot camp? How do you know this? He doesn't... he is making it up. It's what he does, that's our harry krause tax cheat. Gee, can't remember your lies eh?? Sounds like someone else here. |
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On 1/12/13 9:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? Are you saying that you can't control your behavior here because of his? That's childish. Once again, Mrs. Herring is a nice lady. John Herring is an asshole. There's no excuse for insulting his wife. As for your sister, she has enough of a burden with a ****head like you for a brother. |
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@b8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 12, 12:31*am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) Exactly, as she had in the past. But, just remember, it takes quite a coward to sit behind usenet, armchair quarterback and cast blame other than where it should be cast, with the people of the church that pressured the hell out of a 10 year old girl away from home. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:54:24 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 11:21 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway. I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door solves the problem. Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right? It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you could have grown up and been even more like ESAD! John, I seldom agree with you but have always given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to speak at least civilly if not with actual earned respect, as I might to a door-to-door solicitor. I've even tried to help you a time or two. That's over... ***** you*, really! You're well aware I didn't say they were wrong and I was right. I said it didn't make sense to me so I was quiet about it. You know, listen and perhaps learn something. And don't make presumptions about my parents, again you're simply wrong... arrogant and wrong. I've been wrong before! I *assumed* your parents put you in the Sunday school class for a reason pertaining to religion. I must have been mistaken, unless I presumed correctly. If the latter is correct, then I don't understand what ****ed you off. -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:31:06 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) ....and not expect some religion in the mix? (Complete the obvious thought.) -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On 1/12/13 9:50 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:26:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) And I'll bet your uncle didn't talk about your mom letting you go and get 'brainwashed'. Hell, church picnics and potlucks were, and are, the best eatin' around! Really? Several of our local churches sell "churchlady" cooked food a few times a year to raise funds. Perfectly legit. Last summer, we bought two "barbecue" meals from one of those churches, barbecued chicken and barbecued ribs. The chicken was overdone, dry, and pretty much tasteless, the sauce on the ribs tasted like melted sugar, and the coleslaw and potato salad came from Safeway. Hardly "the best eatin' around," unless you like bad cooking. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:26:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:31*am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) And I'll bet your uncle didn't talk about your mom letting you go and get 'brainwashed'. Hell, church picnics and potlucks were, and are, the best eatin' around! -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:48:46 -0500, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 2:26 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) Pedophiles and their enablers don't really like church groups... ....nor do they get tickets for speeding in 'school zones'! (I noticed ESAD perked right up at your comment.) -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:34:34 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 1/12/2013 7:49 AM, JustWait wrote: On 1/12/2013 2:11 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:05 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord, if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging' That's not even biblical. It's not a real story either.... Just sayin' Tim. And even if it is somewhat based on fact.. like even if his neice did go to a church event nobody tried "brainwashing" (in one day, snerk), but it's obvious somebody already was conditioned to hate and be intolerant before her tenth birthday... I could believe that coming from the Noble Klan... Someone is "intolerant" because they don't want their child being subjected to *you have to be born again or you wont' go to heaven, so let's do it right now"?? You stupid ****, if your kid was in her shoes and didn't have the guts to say, or the intelligence to know, that she needed to talk to her parents about such life changing things, that shows what a ****ty parent you are. Now go teach your kid to smoke, it's her right. If she gets cancer, it's okay, because you have no money the taxpayers will take care of the bill, and she can even keep smoking! How could it have been a 'life changing' thing? Is some water on the head, or immersion in a creek, a life changing event for one who has no concept of religion? -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On 1/12/2013 9:45 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:54:24 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 11:21 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway. I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door solves the problem. Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right? It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you could have grown up and been even more like ESAD! John, I seldom agree with you but have always given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to speak at least civilly if not with actual earned respect, as I might to a door-to-door solicitor. I've even tried to help you a time or two. That's over... ***** you*, really! You're well aware I didn't say they were wrong and I was right. I said it didn't make sense to me so I was quiet about it. You know, listen and perhaps learn something. And don't make presumptions about my parents, again you're simply wrong... arrogant and wrong. I've been wrong before! I *assumed* your parents put you in the Sunday school class for a reason pertaining to religion. I must have been mistaken, unless I presumed correctly. If the latter is correct, then I don't understand what ****ed you off. I always wonder if these young enlightened kids told their parents to not give them Christmas presents since of course they had such a progressive view of character... LOL! |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion |
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On 1/12/2013 9:56 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
if your kid was in her shoes and didn't have the guts to say, or the intelligence to know, that she needed to talk to her parents about such life changing things, that shows what a ****ty parent you are. Now go teach your kid to smoke, it's her right. If she gets cancer, it's okay, because you have no money the taxpayers will take care of the bill, and she can even keep smoking! Wow, what a loon... At least I taught my kid one thing... ATGATT.. Which is ALL THE GEAR, ALL THE TIME. It's right on the tank of the bike:) How could it have been a 'life changing' thing? Is some water on the head, or immersion in a creek, a life changing event for one who has no concept of religion? |
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On 1/12/13 10:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 9:56 AM, Salmonbait wrote: if your kid was in her shoes and didn't have the guts to say, or the intelligence to know, that she needed to talk to her parents about such life changing things, that shows what a ****ty parent you are. Now go teach your kid to smoke, it's her right. If she gets cancer, it's okay, because you have no money the taxpayers will take care of the bill, and she can even keep smoking! Wow, what a loon... At least I taught my kid one thing... ATGATT.. Which is ALL THE GEAR, ALL THE TIME. It's right on the tank of the bike:) Yes, that will serve her well when she enlists and has to pack her pack. What a dad! |
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On 1/12/2013 10:02 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" I wonder when the lawsuit is coming.. LOL! Soon enough kevin's sister will be calling on the ACLU because religion was mentioned outside the walls of the church where after all, it could "get on somebody".. LOL! And as to all that brainwashing. I wonder if the military knows the Christians have a secret one afternoon brainwashing method.. I am sure they could make use of something like that!! |
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On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait -- **Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.** |
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On 1/12/2013 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at I was just talking to Tim about that... Democrats win with the question, never even caring about the answers... |
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On 1/12/2013 11:03 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. What does the Inquisition have to do with the lie you and kevin and the rest are telling about "having it shoved down their throats"....?? A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait the democrats win by asking dishonest questions, and never even caring about the answers... |
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On 1/12/13 11:18 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at I was just talking to Tim about that... Democrats win with the question, never even caring about the answers... Surely you and Tim were not thinking that christian missionaries and evangelicals and armies of christian soldiers on a religious mission were innocent of the destruction of indigenous populations and in some cases civilizations, were you? You might be dumb enough to believe that, but I can't believe Tim is. |
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On 1/12/2013 10:47 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. Can I interrupt and ask you to get back to boating topics. You are booring me to tears. |
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On 1/12/13 11:24 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 11:03 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. What does the Inquisition have to do with the lie you and kevin and the rest are telling about "having it shoved down their throats"....?? A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait the democrats win by asking dishonest questions, and never even caring about the answers... And to think *you* have children. The horror of it. |
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says... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. What "bad ****", ****face? But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I'm not "Kevin", ****face. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" No, ****face, but one could expect that a 10 year old child would be safe from total indoctrination, asshole. |
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On 1/12/2013 10:02 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" I wonder when the lawsuit is coming.. LOL! Soon enough kevin's sister will be calling on the ACLU because religion was mentioned outside the walls of the church where after all, it could "get on somebody".. LOL! And as to all that brainwashing. I wonder if the military knows the Christians have a secret one afternoon brainwashing method.. I am sure they could make use of something like that!! Eat **** you stupid little twit. Tell us more about your daughter, the one who has the excellent education, is living the good life, world traveler, etc.... You know, the one who works as a customer service person at a medical supply store..... |
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says... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait They are facts, not allegations, idiot. |
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In article , says... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. What "bad ****", ****face? But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I'm not "Kevin", ****face. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" No, ****face, but one could expect that a 10 year old child would be safe from total indoctrination, asshole. The indoctrination in christian churches starts at a much younger age, actually. What do you think goes on at christian pre-schools, christian bible camps, christian day schools? |
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