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On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Looks like the kid is smarter than her mother and her uncle. |
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On 1/11/13 3:07 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway. I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door solves the problem. Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right? It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you could have grown up and been even more like ESAD! My sister's daughter sure did, they got her alone on a church trip and tried to indoctrinate her telling her she needed to be born again. She wouldn't do it but sure was a scared little girl, wondering what would happen because she wouldn't do it without talking to her parents. I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. Anyway, I listened to this nonsense for about a half hour when they put the "bite" on all of us to cough up some bucks. I told them I thought what they were planning to do turned my stomach, and that if they really wanted to help people, there were plenty in this country who could use assistance, but without the religious bull****. It was bad enough that entire civilizations in Central and South America were wiped out by European Christians. These morons wanted to do it again. |
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says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? |
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says... On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Looks like the kid is smarter than her mother and her uncle. You know NOTHING of me or my sister, and you are a low life ****ing scum. |
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On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. |
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On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) |
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On 1/11/13 6:24 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) What do you think happens when the religious crazies get their hands on possible acolytes? The pressure they exert when they have people in their clutches is enormous. Your problem, aside from your pigheadedness and general ignorance, is that you think (ha!) that experiences you haven't had couldn't have possibly happened to others. When does your daughter leave for military boot camp? |
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On 1/11/2013 4:02 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Loogy has been hitting the bong a little too hard lately. |
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On 1/11/2013 6:28 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 6:24 PM, JustWait wrote: On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) What do you think happens when the religious crazies get their hands on possible acolytes? The pressure they exert when they have people in their clutches is enormous. Your problem, aside from your pigheadedness and general ignorance, is that you think (ha!) that experiences you haven't had couldn't have possibly happened to others. When does your daughter leave for military boot camp? How do you know this? |
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On 1/11/2013 7:36 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 1/11/2013 6:28 PM, ESAD wrote: On 1/11/13 6:24 PM, JustWait wrote: On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) What do you think happens when the religious crazies get their hands on possible acolytes? The pressure they exert when they have people in their clutches is enormous. Your problem, aside from your pigheadedness and general ignorance, is that you think (ha!) that experiences you haven't had couldn't have possibly happened to others. When does your daughter leave for military boot camp? How do you know this? He doesn't... he is making it up. It's what he does, that's our harry krause tax cheat. |
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On 1/11/13 7:59 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/11/2013 7:36 PM, Meyer wrote: On 1/11/2013 6:28 PM, ESAD wrote: On 1/11/13 6:24 PM, JustWait wrote: On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) What do you think happens when the religious crazies get their hands on possible acolytes? The pressure they exert when they have people in their clutches is enormous. Your problem, aside from your pigheadedness and general ignorance, is that you think (ha!) that experiences you haven't had couldn't have possibly happened to others. When does your daughter leave for military boot camp? How do you know this? He doesn't... he is making it up. It's what he does, that's our harry krause tax cheat. You are the one who said if your kid didn't make it as a racer, she'd enlist. |
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On 1/11/2013 11:21 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway. I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door solves the problem. Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right? It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you could have grown up and been even more like ESAD! John, I seldom agree with you but have always given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to speak at least civilly if not with actual earned respect, as I might to a door-to-door solicitor. I've even tried to help you a time or two. That's over... ***** you*, really! You're well aware I didn't say they were wrong and I was right. I said it didn't make sense to me so I was quiet about it. You know, listen and perhaps learn something. And don't make presumptions about my parents, again you're simply wrong... arrogant and wrong. |
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On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) |
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On Jan 11, 2:05*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. *It never made sense. *I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. *I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. * Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. * I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord, if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging' That's not even biblical. |
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On Jan 11, 2:27*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 3:07 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. *It never made sense. *I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. *I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. * Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. * I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway. I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door solves the problem. Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right? It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you could have grown up and been even more like ESAD! My sister's daughter sure did, they got her alone on a church trip and tried to indoctrinate her telling her she needed to be born again. She wouldn't do it but sure was a scared little girl, wondering what would happen because she wouldn't do it without talking to her parents. I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 |
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On Jan 11, 2:27*pm, ESAD wrote:
It was bad enough that entire civilizations in Central and South America were wiped out by European Christians. These morons wanted to do it again.. Odd, I thought those human sacrificing civilizations became 'Indigenous Catholics" |
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On Jan 12, 12:31*am, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) |
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On 1/11/2013 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) My sarcasm wasn't obvious? Just teasing John. |
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On Jan 12, 2:02*am, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 11:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. *As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) My sarcasm wasn't obvious? * Just teasing John. OK. Sometimes I dont' catch on. There's an old saying about Grandma being old, that applies with me....sometimes |
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On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. |
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On 1/12/13 2:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: It was bad enough that entire civilizations in Central and South America were wiped out by European Christians. These morons wanted to do it again. Odd, I thought those human sacrificing civilizations became 'Indigenous Catholics" All indigenous in this context means is people native to the general area. The people in question had their own culture and religion until European christians destroyed both and forcibly converted them to christianity. Those who survived were still indigenous people. As for their human sacrifices, were they any worse in that than the christians who came along and murdered large segments of the indigenous populations with their weapons and European diseases? Since the time of jesus, millions and millions of people have been murdered in the name of christianity. Are those murders somehow less evil than the ones the peoples of Central and South America committed before they were destroyed by christianity? Christianity is a bloodthirsty sect. |
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On 1/12/2013 1:31 AM, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Yeah, really.. especially when there are so many other good groups out there... LOL! |
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On 1/12/2013 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) Pedophiles and their enablers don't really like church groups... |
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On 1/12/2013 2:11 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 2:05 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord, if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging' That's not even biblical. It's not a real story either.... Just sayin' Tim. |
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On 1/12/13 7:48 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 1:31 AM, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Yeah, really.. especially when there are so many other good groups out there... LOL! Entrust your kid to a church group where he/she may be molested and have his/her head filled with superstitious nonsense and hatred towards gays. Is that the explanation for Snotty? |
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On 1/12/2013 7:49 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 2:11 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:05 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord, if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging' That's not even biblical. It's not a real story either.... Just sayin' Tim. And even if it is somewhat based on fact.. like even if his neice did go to a church event nobody tried "brainwashing" (in one day, snerk), but it's obvious somebody already was conditioned to hate and be intolerant before her tenth birthday... I could believe that coming from the Noble Klan... |
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On Jan 12, 6:23*am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" *And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along *church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? *Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. *If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? *In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Harry, I give away a lot of firewood to people who need it. and yes, I will invite people to come to my church. If they wish to, then fine, if not, do you think I quite giving to them? I'll let you decide. |
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On 1/12/13 7:48 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 2:26 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote: On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-) Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and gatherings. had a lot of fun too. ?;^ ) Pedophiles and their enablers don't really like church groups... Really? Then there must be another explanation for all the church pedophiles who prey on young children. What is it? |
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On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. |
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On 1/12/2013 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Harry, I give away a lot of firewood to people who need it. and yes, I will invite people to come to my church. If they wish to, then fine, if not, do you think I quite giving to them? I'll let you decide. The Mormon Missionaries here helped a bunch of folks after last years storm.. One neighbor was clear she didn't want to hear about the Church, she was a good Roman Catholic so they just chopped her wood and moved on... Please Tim, don't listen to the lies of those who had a girlfriend stolen by some christian kid when they were young... |
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On 1/12/13 9:14 AM, JustWait wrote:
The Mormon Missionaries here helped a bunch of folks after last years storm.. One neighbor was clear she didn't want to hear about the Church, she was a good Roman Catholic so they just chopped her wood and moved on... Please Tim, don't listen to the lies of those who had a girlfriend stolen by some christian kid when they were young... - - - Now *that's* funny...christian kids stealing girlfriends. I thought there was a commandment that said you shouldn't covet someone else's girlfriend. |
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says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? |
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says... On 1/11/2013 4:02 PM, ESAD wrote: On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Loogy has been hitting the bong a little too hard lately. Do you think that it's nice of that compassionate Christian Herring to "go after" my sister? |
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On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's what we expect with a made up story:) So how much did you make off of that Sandy scam with the alleged friend who was out of a home and had nothing, but his wife was a wall street banker? |
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