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On 12/25/2012 2:58 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:04:16 -0600, Califbill wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If
I use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't
available.

===

70 dB is not super quiet, not at all.

These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level:

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html

70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB.

Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are
easy to carry and load into a truck.

....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not
ex-hedge fund manager or writer
for a union rag.

---------------------------------------------

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use
.... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely
not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and
an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.




Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at
campgrounds where electricity is
available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in
campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator.

Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while
boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds.

Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent!

That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and
did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then
again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different
location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave,
electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience.

I am old and like comfort. Have a truck camper, and boat remote lakes at
times. Would be nice to have emergency power and a way to charge up the
batteries, especially if the truck batts went down.

That cute little Honda EU2000i might be right up your alley:

http://tinyurl.com/cxpl99n


Yeah, if you can afford it, it's a nice rig.... however.....

If I were him, and onlywanted to use it for emergency and battery
charging, etc I might "consider" the 1000, it's sooooo quiet even
compared to the 2000. We used the 2000 honda at Unadilla and had to put
it in the hauler overnight and it was still too loud to run overnight.
The 1000 would have been fine if you got the super quiet model, running
in that 30 foot hauler with the doors mostly shut...

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:26:54 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 5:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote:

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use ....
and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not
going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an
annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.

Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it.

Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area
is well removed from the RV area.



My favorite campground isn't segregated.

http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php

None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity,
and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available.


BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

Ditto to the above. I've never tent camped on a site with water or electricity or sewage. I did have
a little light I could hook to the motorcycle battery for reading. Putting tent, sleeping bags,
Thermarests (yes!), cooking gear, clothes, tools, and my wife and I on two motorcycles didn't leave
room for much else.

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wrote:
On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one?
http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb
This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies.


Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna'

hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'..
I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours.
You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your
neighbors high-five you every time they pass by.

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?

How?

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:45:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:37:15 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/24/2012 3:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0800, thumper wrote:

My favorite campground isn't segregated.
http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_37.php

None of them are segregated. But most tent campers don't want to pay extra for water, electricity,
and sewer. So they usually stay in places other than the sites where all that is available.

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.

I have no reason to bull**** you or anyone else about it.

And I have no reason either. I would estimate 30-40% tent campers in
the A loop of the referenced campground (with power/water), and more in
the B, G, and T loops where you would need your generator. Some forgo
the tent and sleep outside on a cot or pad when it's nice. Maybe it's
regional or age differences? Many campers here bring boats instead of
RVs but still like the convenience of a coffee maker and microwave.
When I stay for a week or more I bring a small freezer.

That's cool. I don't think I intimated you were bull****ting me or anyone else. I told you my
experiences, you told me yours. You refer to one campground, and I've stayed in dozens, just in the
past ten years. When we stay a week, we bring a refrigerator, freezer, oven, coffee maker, and a
toilet. And, have as good a time as we did when we had a couple sleeping bags and a tent. Often,
we'll take the boat *and* the RV. My wife's getting pretty good at towing the boat with her
Highlander. Both Lake Anna and Solomon's Island area offer great boating and fishing.

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On 12/25/12 8:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:06:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/25/12 3:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one,
that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it
without electricity and water hookups.

- - -

So, you want to be upwind and upstream of the tenters, eh?

Why?


Because without water, they're going to smell bad.

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On 12/25/2012 9:00 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or
had one?
http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb
This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary,
emergencies.


Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna'

hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'..
I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours.
You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your
neighbors high-five you every time they pass by.

Really, you would think he would know we all know he's "that guy" all
the time...

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ESAD wrote:
On 12/23/12 11:27 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:31:03 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or
had one?

http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb

This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary,
emergencies.


Contractor generators are very loud... You will not want to use this
for
home use. We used to use one and had to put it in the detached garage
and run cables to the house or it would keep the whole neighborhood
awake. They are made for construction sites, hope you are not trying to
cheap out on a tool, cause if it's home generation you are looking for,
you probably bought the wrong tool...

Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I
use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available.


70dB is hardly super quiet. My home genny runs at 60 dB in test mode
and 66 dB at load, or about the same, to my ears, as a neighbor
running his lawn tractor. 70 dB is significantly louder but not
annoyingly so during a power outage, since others will be running
them, too.

Did you pay your taxes yet or is that an expense the rest of us bear?

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:53:11 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/25/2012 2:58 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:04:16 -0600, Califbill wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If
I use it at home, it would be
only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I
primarily wanted something I could
throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't
available.

===

70 dB is not super quiet, not at all.

These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level:

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html

70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB.

Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are
easy to carry and load into a truck.

....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not
ex-hedge fund manager or writer
for a union rag.

---------------------------------------------

John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use
.... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely
not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and
an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will
definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV
thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator
that came with the camper.




Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at
campgrounds where electricity is
available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in
campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator.

Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while
boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds.

Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent!

That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and
did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then
again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different
location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave,
electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience.

I am old and like comfort. Have a truck camper, and boat remote lakes at
times. Would be nice to have emergency power and a way to charge up the
batteries, especially if the truck batts went down.

That cute little Honda EU2000i might be right up your alley:

http://tinyurl.com/cxpl99n


Yeah, if you can afford it, it's a nice rig.... however.....

If I were him, and onlywanted to use it for emergency and battery
charging, etc I might "consider" the 1000, it's sooooo quiet even
compared to the 2000. We used the 2000 honda at Unadilla and had to put
it in the hauler overnight and it was still too loud to run overnight.
The 1000 would have been fine if you got the super quiet model, running
in that 30 foot hauler with the doors mostly shut...

That one's just too small. With resource management the 2K should be enough, but not the baby of the
family.