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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:05:22 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1162069442378058030.655503bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. Bingo! A lot of people like to camp the old simple way ..maybe with a Coleman lantern and stove. Here's my credit card, where is my room. I had enough camping in shelter halves and all-weather sleeping bags. Some of the most beautiful sights in the U.S. can really only be seen by hiking in and camping. I'm sure glad that I don't miss those opportunities. My 4x4 will get me to enough beautiful remote places to satisfy me. I fully understand that some people would rather seek total comfort as opposed to seeing things not everyone can see and getting some exercise in the process. One of the best experiences of my life was hiking for a month and a half on the AT. Have you been through Bryce Canyon, Arches, Canyonlands, Grand Canyon, Zion, Yellowstone, and Grand Tetons National Parks? Great places. You can park your rig in a nice campground, and then hike all day long! |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:04:16 -0600, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I use it at home, it would be only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I primarily wanted something I could throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available. === 70 dB is not super quiet, not at all. These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level: http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html 70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB. Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are easy to carry and load into a truck. ....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not ex-hedge fund manager or writer for a union rag. --------------------------------------------- John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds. Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent! That's odd, I've camped all over the U.S. in all kinds of weather and did so perfectly fine without a generator or electricity. But then again, I actually camp, as opposed to just moving to a different location with all of the amenities of my home. I don't need a microwave, electric coffee maker, etc. to have a good experience. I am old and like comfort. Have a truck camper, and boat remote lakes at times. Would be nice to have emergency power and a way to charge up the batteries, especially if the truck batts went down. That cute little Honda EU2000i might be right up your alley: http://tinyurl.com/cxpl99n |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:14:14 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/24/2012 5:47 AM, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 8:27 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 8:38 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. Oh well... Looks like you are gonna' be one of "those guys".... Tent campers can see you coming a mile away. Tent camping in a RV park is like camping in your back yard. Why? There are so many places you can hike to to get away from "it all". My favorite campground is a normally peaceful mixed-use campground at the mouth of a great fishing river. I tow a boat instead of an RV and don't care if generators are running in Wall-Mart parking lots. The running of generators in WalMart parking lots is frowned upon by much of the camping community. But, it's up to the manager of the local WalMart. We found the free overnights at some of the truck stops, like Flying J's, were nice. |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:55:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 12/24/2012 6:18 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. OK, OK...enought already,.I'll cancel the friggin' order, mortgage my house (again) and buy a damn Honda. Maybe I can find one cheaper that $999.99 somewhere. We try to look after your best interests. ;-) Amazing the old fool asks for advice, and then when he gets it, gets ****ed off like a little school girl. Who's ****ed? |
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 23:31:48 -0500, Meyer wrote:
On 12/24/2012 6:18 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 12/24/2012 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the camping comments made by me and others are in response to your original post where you specifically stated: "This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies." I don't see how any of us overlooked anything. When it comes to generators, you get what you pay for. The one you are looking at is a cheaply made, Chinese import that has a reputation for being very short-lived. You may balk at the price of an inverter based Honda or one of it's Yamaha or Suzuki equivalents, but if you read some of the reviews and people's experiences of the cheap Chinese generators you will find that you'll go through several of them while the better ones are still going strong. I'd also reconsider if you really need 3kw of portable power. The inverter design (Honda, Yamaha, etc.) 2000 watt is sufficient for most camping, boating and emergency power applications if you manage the load put on it. My EU-2000i easily ran a full sized home refrigerator, couple of incandescent lights, a Direct TV receiver and large flat panel TV 24/7 for over a week after hurricane Wilma. When I wanted to brew a pot of coffee, I temporarily unplugged the refrigerator, made the coffee, then plugged the refrigerator back in. All this time it ran on the lower RPM range, automatically kicking up briefly for a heavier load (like when the refrigerator compressor kicked on) and then dropped back to it's low RPM range after the compressor was running. The generator you are looking at runs at 3600 RPM continuously, burning more gas than necessary and, as previously pointed out, is loud. The other benefit of an inverter type generator is that the output voltage is a very clean, sine wave. This is important when powering sensitive devices like computers. Appliances, like Microwaves, might not work with the cheap square wave inverters. Honda's are nice. Work hard, last long. OK, OK...enought already,.I'll cancel the friggin' order, mortgage my house (again) and buy a damn Honda. Maybe I can find one cheaper that $999.99 somewhere. We try to look after your best interests. ;-) That's why I started the thread! Thanks! |
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On 12/25/12 3:07 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
Well, you are exceptional. Most of the time there are tenters where we camp, but I've only seen one, that I can remember, on a site with water and electricity. The great majority of tenters rough it without electricity and water hookups. - - - So, you want to be upwind and upstream of the tenters, eh? |
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