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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:58:39 -0500, JustWait
wrote: I just replaced an 8D diesel engine starting battery (155 lbs, $325) with a pair of the AGM 31Ms in parallel (75 lbs each). The 31Ms are much easier for my wife to lift over the engine. :-) I've been averaging about 2 years of life out of the 8Ds so the AGMs will eventually pay for themselves if I can get an extra year or two out of them. Could you run a small cabin heater all night long with one of those batteries? === Only if it was one of those wimpy little dash board heaters that plugs into a cigarette lighter. A typical full-powered electric heater draws over 1,000 watts which translates to over 100 amps at 12 volts DC. You might get ten minutes if you were lucky and the battery would age well before its time if you did it very often. What you can do with an inverter and a big battery bank, is run an electric blanket all night. We do that on the boat but our inverter runs from (8) heavy duty golf cart batteries, about 1,000 amp-hours total. |
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On 12/23/12 4:58 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/23/2012 3:28 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:00:54 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: I'm thinking of new batteries for the truck before much longer. Any reason you particularly like the Diehard you referenced? They're expensive as hell, and made by the same company that makes WalMart, Costco, and other batteries. === The reason why the 31M Diehard Platinums are so expensive is because they are AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) technology. It's the latest and greatest for long term durability in heavy duty, deep cycle usage. Unless you deep cycle your truck battery, probably not worth the expense. For inverter batts however, yes. The Diehards come with a very good warranty of course, and are spill proof. They are also available on sale from time to time which makes them a bit more reasonable. I just replaced an 8D diesel engine starting battery (155 lbs, $325) with a pair of the AGM 31Ms in parallel (75 lbs each). The 31Ms are much easier for my wife to lift over the engine. :-) I've been averaging about 2 years of life out of the 8Ds so the AGMs will eventually pay for themselves if I can get an extra year or two out of them. Could you run a small cabin heater all night long with one of those batteries? No. Maybe 15-20 minutes. You want electric power all night, you want a small generator. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:48:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. ---------------------------------------------------------- I think that if you fire that thing up in a public campground, you'll get thrown out very quickly. Way too noisy for camping. Many public campgrounds even frown on the quiet Hondas. All of the public campgrounds we've used have had electricity, so I wouldn't know about the generator noise. If we were to use it while camping, it would be where there was no 'shore power'. I imagine we'd either be alone, or amongst others doing the same thing. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:53:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:31:03 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Contractor generators are very loud... You will not want to use this for home use. We used to use one and had to put it in the detached garage and run cables to the house or it would keep the whole neighborhood awake. They are made for construction sites, hope you are not trying to cheap out on a tool, cause if it's home generation you are looking for, you probably bought the wrong tool... Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I use it at home, it would be only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I primarily wanted something I could throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 70 db isn't close to being quiet. For comparison, the well known Honda EU-2000i has a 53/59 db noise level (depending on load). Every 3 db increase *doubles* the noise level. Yeah, but the well known Honda costs right at $1000, and provides half the power as this $279 model. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:58:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:43:11 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:44 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Supposedly, this one is 'Super Quiet', with a 70 dB noise level. If I use it at home, it would be only for a few absolute necessities - with time management. I primarily wanted something I could throw in the pickup for camping trips where electricity isn't available. === 70 dB is not super quiet, not at all. These are reasonably quiet at 53 to 59 dB depending on load level: http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-EU1000IKC-Portable-Generator/p6548.html 70dB is approximately 10 times louder than 59 dB. Even the small Hondas get annoying after awhile but at 29 pounds are easy to carry and load into a truck. ....and cost almost ten times as much! Hell, I'm ex-military, not ex-hedge fund manager or writer for a union rag. --------------------------------------------- John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Apparently my camping use got overlooked. I wouldn't be using it at campgrounds where electricity is available, but where I'm either alone or with others on a generator. I've never, while in campgrounds in the US, had a need for a generator. Friends who've traveled with their trailers to Alaska had need of a generator, both while boondocking alongside the road and in some of the Alaskan campgrounds. Hell, I won't even play a radio outside in the campgrounds we frequent! |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:47:00 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/23/2012 2:58 PM, Eisboch wrote: John, the point is that if you are thinking of it for camping use .... and plan to stay at public campgrounds ... they are most likely not going to allow use of a generator like that. It's too noisy and an annoyance to other campers. You might not mind, but others will definitely complain. Heck, I remember back when we were into the RV thing for a while. Campsites didn't like you running the generator that came with the camper. Anyone in a nearby tent will especially hate it. Actually, I can't even think of a place we've stayed where tents were nearby. Usually the tent area is well removed from the RV area. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:01:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. I agree, but those aren't where we stay. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:01:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"GuzzisRule" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:14 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. At those kinds of campgrounds, electricity is available - wouldn't need a generator. If camping in a place where a generator is needed - like off the highway in Canada somewhere - anyone else around will be using their generator also. ------------------------------- Nope. You are wrong. There are electricity-less campsites but they are typically favored by people who want to truly connect with nature. They go there to get away from noise, not to microwave hotdogs or run a coffee maker. They *are* where we stayed when we were doing all the motorcycle camping. But then all we needed for heat was a little candle lantern in the tent and heavy duty sleeping bags - but not in Houston. |
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