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GuzzisRule December 27th 12 12:53 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???


I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.


I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).


Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take
a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..


We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal
camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day
races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for
weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes behind
in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around town...

What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking
outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't want a
long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need two
separate sleeping areas.

If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for travel:)


Here ya go!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf

Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler'
fifth wheel.

GuzzisRule December 27th 12 12:55 PM

Generator
 
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:19:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:57:17 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500,
wrote:



On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:




They don't have anything like this is North Carolina




http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg



or this




http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg




or this




http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg




or this




http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg




Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent


camp in those areas???






I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to


pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.




At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to


drive.


My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his


driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).


He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.


They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road


towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to


buy food in or out.




I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked

up, and I don't have to tow a toad.



We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,


staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in


or eating out.


We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our


2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).




Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this

country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of

Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take

a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and

camping often won out.,



Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel


is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your


expenses..




We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of

the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Our national broadcaster consumer protection series did a couple episodes exposing germs etc in a half dozen hotel chains...Some considered higher end.
It was a bit gross...They had an expert go undercover with the gear needed to go the inspections. Some results are scary.
I've always carried the anti-bacterial cloths to wipe door knobs, tv remotes, sink faucets etc but will now include a bottle of Frebreeze to mist the bed after I toss the comforter onto a chair.


I'd rather not worry about the ones in the cracks the mist doesn't reach.

JustWait[_2_] December 27th 12 12:58 PM

Generator
 
On 12/27/2012 7:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???


I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.

I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).

Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take
a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..

We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal
camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day
races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for
weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes behind
in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around town...

What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking
outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't want a
long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need two
separate sleeping areas.

If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for travel:)


Here ya go!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf

Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler'
fifth wheel.


Sure, that's what Jessi goes racin' in when we roll out with the team.
That's what we call a "FunMover" and it's the reason I said "I don't
sleep with bikes". I want my bikes in a trailer. Second, I don't know
about you but 1200 dollars gas for one weekend from Worcester Mass to
Unadilla NY and back is not gonna' cut it for me and Jess on off
weekends... Nice, but naaaa, not for a us.

JustWait[_2_] December 27th 12 01:01 PM

Generator
 
On 12/27/2012 7:55 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:19:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:57:17 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500,
wrote:



On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



They don't have anything like this is North Carolina



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg



Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent

camp in those areas???





I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to

pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.



At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to

drive.

My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his

driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).

He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.

They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road

towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to

buy food in or out.



I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked

up, and I don't have to tow a toad.



We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,

staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in

or eating out.

We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our

2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).



Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this

country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of

Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take

a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and

camping often won out.,



Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel

is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your

expenses..



We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of

the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Our national broadcaster consumer protection series did a couple episodes exposing germs etc in a half dozen hotel chains...Some considered higher end.
It was a bit gross...They had an expert go undercover with the gear needed to go the inspections. Some results are scary.
I've always carried the anti-bacterial cloths to wipe door knobs, tv remotes, sink faucets etc but will now include a bottle of Frebreeze to mist the bed after I toss the comforter onto a chair.


I'd rather not worry about the ones in the cracks the mist doesn't reach.


Had to sleep in a motel a while back for a family funeral trip. Oh man,
it was gross, just the smell of the place in general... I seriously
doubt that I will ever try to stay in a motel again, I really had
trouble sleeping just smelled like socks in the place.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 27th 12 01:09 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:51:52 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:47:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:




I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to


pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.




At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to


drive.


My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his


driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).


He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.


They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road


towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to


buy food in or out.




We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,


staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in


or eating out.


We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our


2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).




Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel


is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your


expenses..




I love to drive around the U.S.A. Did you realize you can see a lot more


driving than you can in an airplane?




You are not going to see much looking out the window on the


interstate. We drive plenty on these vacations, typically 1500 - 2000


miles but it is around one or two states, very far from here. The


plane gets over a week of driving behind you in 2 half days.


If you actually wanted to investigate every interesting thing you see


and you drive on back roads like we do, it would take over a month to


get to Colorado. That might be great if you were rich and didn't have


any reason to be home.




Harry doesn't like to see anything either. One of the best times I ever

had was my brother and I drove from New York to New Orleans and went

anywhere we felt like. We had a book called Roadfood and went to

whatever town we wanted to check out a food place, plus whatever we

wanted to see. Two weeks to get to New Orleans, where we stayed for

another four days. Met many people along the way that I'm still in touch

with, saw a lot of local things that you wouldn't have seen if you

hadn't spent time with the locals, etc.


Bull****...sounds like a BoogieTale.


Prove it wrong, idiot. Would you like me to get you in touch with my
brother and ask him? $1000 bet good enough for you?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 27th 12 01:11 PM

Generator
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???



I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.


I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).


Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take
a peek.


Bingo, you hit the nail on the head.


My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given
various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..


We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Indeed.

ESAD December 27th 12 01:20 PM

Generator
 
On 12/27/12 8:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/27/2012 7:55 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:19:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:57:17 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500,
wrote:



On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



They don't have anything like this is North Carolina



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg



Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and
tent

camp in those areas???





I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to

pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.



At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to

drive.

My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his

driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).

He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.

They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road

towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to

buy food in or out.



I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to
drive when the trailer's hooked

up, and I don't have to tow a toad.



We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,

staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in

or eating out.

We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our

2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).



Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost
driving, but much of this

country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with
Nebraska, Oklahome, most of

Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state,
if one will slow down and take

a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs,
given various assumptions, and

camping often won out.,



Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel

is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your

expenses..



We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first
trailer a few years back. One of

the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples'
bed bugs!

Our national broadcaster consumer protection series did a couple
episodes exposing germs etc in a half dozen hotel chains...Some
considered higher end.
It was a bit gross...They had an expert go undercover with the gear
needed to go the inspections. Some results are scary.
I've always carried the anti-bacterial cloths to wipe door knobs, tv
remotes, sink faucets etc but will now include a bottle of Frebreeze
to mist the bed after I toss the comforter onto a chair.


I'd rather not worry about the ones in the cracks the mist doesn't reach.


Had to sleep in a motel a while back for a family funeral trip. Oh man,
it was gross, just the smell of the place in general... I seriously
doubt that I will ever try to stay in a motel again, I really had
trouble sleeping just smelled like socks in the place.


One can only imagine what it smelled like after you left.

Next time, don't stay at the RoachSpray Inn. Move on up to the Bates
Motel. Norm will treat you the way you deserve.

GuzzisRule December 27th 12 01:33 PM

Generator
 
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:58:17 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/27/2012 7:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???


I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.

I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).

Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take
a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..

We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal
camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day
races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for
weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes behind
in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around town...

What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking
outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't want a
long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need two
separate sleeping areas.

If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for travel:)


Here ya go!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf

Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler'
fifth wheel.


Sure, that's what Jessi goes racin' in when we roll out with the team.
That's what we call a "FunMover" and it's the reason I said "I don't
sleep with bikes". I want my bikes in a trailer. Second, I don't know
about you but 1200 dollars gas for one weekend from Worcester Mass to
Unadilla NY and back is not gonna' cut it for me and Jess on off
weekends... Nice, but naaaa, not for a us.


Wow, Worcester, Mass - haven't heard that name in a long time. My first assignment after I finished
my Artillery FDC training at Ft. Sill, OK, was to Ft. Devens, MA - just outside Ayer. I had to go to
Worcester for something, and the guy called it 'Woostah'. I couldn't find the damn town on the map,
so I got a little assistance from a local.

Anyway, my truck, a diesel, pulling about 10,500 lbs, gets around 15mpg, so the 500 mile trip would
cost in the neighborhood of $130 or so. You must be adding in the gas for the motorcycle. When we
bought ours, weight was a big factor in the decision process.

ESAD December 27th 12 01:35 PM

Generator
 
On 12/27/12 8:33 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:58:17 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/27/2012 7:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent
camp in those areas???


I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to
buy food in or out.

I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).

Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take
a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..

We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!


Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal
camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day
races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for
weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes behind
in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around town...

What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking
outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't want a
long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need two
separate sleeping areas.

If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for travel:)

Here ya go!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf

Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler'
fifth wheel.


Sure, that's what Jessi goes racin' in when we roll out with the team.
That's what we call a "FunMover" and it's the reason I said "I don't
sleep with bikes". I want my bikes in a trailer. Second, I don't know
about you but 1200 dollars gas for one weekend from Worcester Mass to
Unadilla NY and back is not gonna' cut it for me and Jess on off
weekends... Nice, but naaaa, not for a us.


Wow, Worcester, Mass - haven't heard that name in a long time. My first assignment after I finished
my Artillery FDC training at Ft. Sill, OK, was to Ft. Devens, MA - just outside Ayer. I had to go to
Worcester for something, and the guy called it 'Woostah'. I couldn't find the damn town on the map,
so I got a little assistance from a local.

Anyway, my truck, a diesel, pulling about 10,500 lbs, gets around 15mpg, so the 500 mile trip would
cost in the neighborhood of $130 or so. You must be adding in the gas for the motorcycle. When we
bought ours, weight was a big factor in the decision process.



Shouldn't you be on the road again?

GuzzisRule December 27th 12 01:36 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:01:15 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 12/27/2012 7:55 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:19:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:57:17 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500,
wrote:



On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



They don't have anything like this is North Carolina



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg



or this



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg



Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent

camp in those areas???





I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to

pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.



At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to

drive.

My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his

driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).

He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them.

They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road

towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to

buy food in or out.



I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked

up, and I don't have to tow a toad.



We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class,

staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in

or eating out.

We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our

2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).



Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this

country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of

Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take

a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and

camping often won out.,



Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel

is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your

expenses..



We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of

the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs!

Our national broadcaster consumer protection series did a couple episodes exposing germs etc in a half dozen hotel chains...Some considered higher end.
It was a bit gross...They had an expert go undercover with the gear needed to go the inspections. Some results are scary.
I've always carried the anti-bacterial cloths to wipe door knobs, tv remotes, sink faucets etc but will now include a bottle of Frebreeze to mist the bed after I toss the comforter onto a chair.


I'd rather not worry about the ones in the cracks the mist doesn't reach.


Had to sleep in a motel a while back for a family funeral trip. Oh man,
it was gross, just the smell of the place in general... I seriously
doubt that I will ever try to stay in a motel again, I really had
trouble sleeping just smelled like socks in the place.


The last time I was in one was while motorcycling West Virginia with my brothers. (Who, BTW, ride
Harley's, so they had a rough time keeping up.) We stayed in Elkins for night in a Best Western.
Like you say, stinky and rough. I'd brought a sleep sack - and I crashed on the floor thinking it
was probably cleaner than the bed.


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