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says... On 12/27/12 12:27 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:03:51 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:49 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:35:15 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:33 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:58:17 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/27/2012 7:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: They don't have anything like this is North Carolina http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent camp in those areas??? I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable. At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to drive. My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time). He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them. They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to buy food in or out. I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked up, and I don't have to tow a toad. We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class, staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in or eating out. We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our 2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun). Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and camping often won out., Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your expenses.. We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs! Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes behind in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around town... What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't want a long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need two separate sleeping areas. If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for travel:) Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. Sure, that's what Jessi goes racin' in when we roll out with the team. That's what we call a "FunMover" and it's the reason I said "I don't sleep with bikes". I want my bikes in a trailer. Second, I don't know about you but 1200 dollars gas for one weekend from Worcester Mass to Unadilla NY and back is not gonna' cut it for me and Jess on off weekends... Nice, but naaaa, not for a us. Wow, Worcester, Mass - haven't heard that name in a long time. My first assignment after I finished my Artillery FDC training at Ft. Sill, OK, was to Ft. Devens, MA - just outside Ayer. I had to go to Worcester for something, and the guy called it 'Woostah'. I couldn't find the damn town on the map, so I got a little assistance from a local. Anyway, my truck, a diesel, pulling about 10,500 lbs, gets around 15mpg, so the 500 mile trip would cost in the neighborhood of $130 or so. You must be adding in the gas for the motorcycle. When we bought ours, weight was a big factor in the decision process. Shouldn't you be on the road again? March, Pohick Bay...you're welcome to come, but don't call yourself ESAD. Folks will not think as highly of you as you would wish given your status and all. You're pulling your camper trailer to Pohick Bay, which is what, about a half an hour from your house? In March? I get it. You didn't have much to do, so you bought yourself a camper trailer and a big truck so you'd have something to do. Because it's the Christmas season, I'll try to be courteous, ESAD. There is a group of us who meet at the Pohick Bay Regional Park twice a year, in early spring and late fall. The spring get-together is for 'de-winterizing and a spring shakedown'. We do this close to home in case we need something from the house. We do this as a group because if one person needs a special tool or whatever, someone in the group may have it with them. We also do this 'cause we enjoy the camaraderie. Sitting around the campfire and shootin' the **** is fun - even if it's a little chilly outside. We also do a buffet type dinner where everyone brings a dish. Yes, you're right. We bought the big truck to pull the big camper because we're doing something we want to do! Merry Christmas! I suppose when you are retired, you need busy work to have something to do. It does get him out of the house unlike you watching your 350 "movies" that you have on a storage device in your home. |
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says... On 12/27/12 11:01 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote: On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... Here ya go! http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is what's called a 'Toy Hauler' fifth wheel. --------------------------------------------------- Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it and had the most miserable week of my life. My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping. I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford 250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the dealership. My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other. The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool. Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood. One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet vac while the rest started sopping up the water. Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the road. By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids. So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the trailer. Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop. The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada. BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three, I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in it. Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much rather live on a boat. We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time. The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he http://mainestayinn.com/ No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W. Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I love the Maine coastline. On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine Stay. No bugs. That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future. The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born. Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad. There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away, and it is worth a day's visit. Why don't you just go to the store in Howard County. It's not like it is an all day trip. Or you could go the the store in Tyson's Corner which is close to your Korean dentist. |
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says... On 12/27/12 2:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:42:52 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: You really have to spend more than $49 a night. True, but once you get up to those $300-$500 a night rooms, RV's start looking pretty good! Not unless you spend more than 3 weeks on the road a year. Just the amortization of the cost of the RV was more than we spent on rooms, rentacars and air fare when we ran the numbers with my RV owner neighbor (based on losing 50% of the purchase price in 5 years). That was a conservative guess The last few trips we've been on, we never paid more than $160 a night for first rate hotels, usually smaller very nice hotels. Hotel rates are negotiable. I think we'll be in California twice in the first quarter of 2013, and the northwest perhaps in June. I'd like to get back to New Orleans this coming year, too. Is the Dr.Dr.Dr taking you to the Hotel Coronado again? Are you going to post to rec.boats the entire time while watching "movies" in the hotel room? |
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On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html |
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On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:00:29 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote: wrote: On Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32:14 AM UTC-4, JustWait wrote: On 12/23/2012 10:26 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: I just ordered this thing, on sale for $279.99. Anyone ever used or had one? http://tinyurl.com/cz9eobb This will be used primarily for camping trips and, if necessary, emergencies. Oooops, missed he "camping trips" part. Your camp neighbors are gonna' hate you for running a contractors genny at the campsite.. Just sayin'.. I don't think Johnny worries too much about the neighbours. You don't seem to care about your house and yard. I'm sure your neighbors high-five you every time they pass by. B Well, Ditzy...y'all sure do come by your name honestly. What name? I'm Earl and that's all you need to know. You live in a pigsty and your boss, Harry, is a tax cheat. And that's all I need to know about dumb and dumber. |
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On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote: On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , lid says... BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water. I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet either Used the campground facilities. Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug. Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about. Besides that, the RV area is noisy. And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive tent stakes through that. Never considered for a second buying an RV spot. Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper? See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which allow more time on the river. We use a tent. Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of that. While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right there. Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on. Yep, tents are horrible! Tents are great! I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult! Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here? And, if you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And, actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible. I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You are really stupid. I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved. Yes, I have. Assumptions again? No, see above. You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other camping equipment. We camped out here for five days last summer... http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just clothes and suntan lotion. Did you pay your taxes before you shelled out a whopping $59/night? |
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:57:17 PM UTC-4, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: They don't have anything like this is North Carolina http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg or this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and tent camp in those areas??? I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and trying to pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable. At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to drive. My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in his driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time). He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded them. They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still had to buy food in or out. I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to drive when the trailer's hooked up, and I don't have to tow a toad. We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st class, staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in or eating out. We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of our 2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun). Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost driving, but much of this country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with Nebraska, Oklahome, most of Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state, if one will slow down and take a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs, given various assumptions, and camping often won out., Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the hotel is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your expenses.. We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first trailer a few years back. One of the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples' bed bugs! Our national broadcaster consumer protection series did a couple episodes exposing germs etc in a half dozen hotel chains...Some considered higher end. It was a bit gross...They had an expert go undercover with the gear needed to go the inspections. Some results are scary. I've always carried the anti-bacterial cloths to wipe door knobs, tv remotes, sink faucets etc but will now include a bottle of Frebreeze to mist the bed after I toss the comforter onto a chair. Nice area you live in. What's the Febreeze going to do other than make the ******** smell good? Did you take your tax cheat buddy Krause with you? He may have been the source of your putrid odor. |
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On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen Because I could. At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there. We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000 miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever. Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the Aspen/Volarie. I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old. I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine. According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie. http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine. |
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