thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


Show me where it says "freedom from religion"??

Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say.

On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


Show me where it says "freedom from religion"??


You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation"
clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing.

On 12/6/12 10:28 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


And they are nothing but bullying. In San Diego they (atheists) flooded
the town committee with requests for the Christmas display spots and
then just put up a bunch of mocking displays, celebrating nothing... but
for no other reason but to denigrate and eventually get the Christmas
display discontinued... Nothing else... That is bullying, period.


Is there a shortage of private land in San Diego? No church yards on
which to put up Christmas displays? Do you have a manger in your front
yard?

On 12/7/2012 1:14 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


Show me where it says "freedom from religion"??

Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say.

So, you can't show me where it says that so you are gonna' try to tell
me what you think it says? Another bully...

On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.


And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing
to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration...

On 12/7/12 7:38 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.


And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing
to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration...


Funny, neither you nor Bilious Bill understand the First Amendment or
its history. There's a lot more about how the Amendment came about than
"the Church of England."

Obviously, "religious people" can use public facilities, but that
doesn't mean they can use those facilities to promote their religious
beliefs.

No one gives a damn what displays "religious people" put up on private
or church property.

On 12/7/12 7:37 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 1:14 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


Show me where it says "freedom from religion"??

Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say.

So, you can't show me where it says that so you are gonna' try to tell
me what you think it says? Another bully...

You're so stupid you can't find it yourself?

In article ,
says...

On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.


Show me where it says "freedom from religion"??


You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation"
clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing.

If we use your interpretation of the Constitution and the laws we may
end up with a tax lien on our property or we may even be sued by the
government for non-payment of taxes.

In article ,
says...

On 12/7/12 7:38 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.


And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing
to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration...


Funny, neither you nor Bilious Bill understand the First Amendment or
its history. There's a lot more about how the Amendment came about than
"the Church of England."

But they do understand and comply with tax law, unlike you.

Obviously, "religious people" can use public facilities, but that
doesn't mean they can use those facilities to promote their religious
beliefs.

It means the government cannot favor one religion over another religion.
It has nothing to do with what the religions do.

Can the government censor the speech of other tax exempt organizations?

No one gives a damn what displays "religious people" put up on private
or church property.

You should worry about paying your taxes and your debts and leave other
people alone.