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iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 06:59 PM

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Who or what produces the electricity that is put into cars?


Power companies.


In the US 42% of that electricity is generated from coal. (the largest
single source of power) Unfortunately the places where coal is used
are also the places with short enough commutes to make electric cars
competitive.

You are advocating coal power cars.


Another silly scared of technology argument.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 07:47 PM

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There is NO government requirement to produce electric cars, that is a
lie.

I guess you have never heard of California but it is the largest car
market in the US.

Google ZEV


ZEV's can be anything. I said there are no government requirements to
produce electric cars. If there is, show me.


I suppose you could be talking about a bike or a skate board but what
other ZEVs are there? Don't even start about the compressed air car
until you can show me where to buy one. You still have the problem of
how you compress the air.


Once again, you deflect from your stance that there is, indeed,
"government requirements to produce electric cars". That is false.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 09:16 PM

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Who or what produces the electricity that is put into cars?

Power companies.

In the US 42% of that electricity is generated from coal. (the largest
single source of power) Unfortunately the places where coal is used
are also the places with short enough commutes to make electric cars
competitive.

You are advocating coal power cars.


Another silly scared of technology argument.


It sounds more like you are denying reality ... unless you actually
think there is such a thing as clean coal. The only time Democrats
say that is when they are trying to win votes in the Appalachians


There are other viable fuels. Period.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 09:17 PM

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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:47:07 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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Google ZEV

ZEV's can be anything. I said there are no government requirements to
produce electric cars. If there is, show me.

I suppose you could be talking about a bike or a skate board but what
other ZEVs are there? Don't even start about the compressed air car
until you can show me where to buy one. You still have the problem of
how you compress the air.


Once again, you deflect from your stance that there is, indeed,
"government requirements to produce electric cars". That is false.


Is California a government? Well you may have me there.
Assuming it is, they are requiring that a certain number of cars be
ZEVs and electric is the only game in town.


California has absolutely NO "requirement to produce electric cars".

JustWait[_2_] December 5th 12 09:59 PM

This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can'tbe done!
 
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I see your First Solar is not doing so well either, down about 75%
from it's 52 week high.


Depends when you bought it.


We call that a trade, not an investment.
Are you trying to time the market now?


"Future Fuel" is a no hit on Yahoo Finance.


OK you tell me, what is the ticker symbol.


Yeah, that's what I'd use as a barometer, Yahoo Finance..... right.

Which electric car company would you invest in?


Daimler Benz.

That is not an electric car company. It is a company that may put out
a boutique electric car for millionaires to play with.


You do know this is loogie, right? Making up things like investments and
such as the conversation warrants??? Just sayin'...

BAR[_2_] December 6th 12 01:23 AM

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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:43:51 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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Who or what produces the electricity that is put into cars?

Power companies.


In the US 42% of that electricity is generated from coal. (the largest
single source of power) Unfortunately the places where coal is used
are also the places with short enough commutes to make electric cars
competitive.

You are advocating coal power cars.


Another silly scared of technology argument.


What technology argument. There is no argument about how electricity is
produced, how electricity is distributed nor any argument about how
electricity is consumed. The argument is that the electric cars of today
are no more efficient and cost effective than the electric cars of 100
years ago.

Califbill December 6th 12 01:24 AM

This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
 
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He says he is moving non performing assets in to electric cars, etc. No
wonder he has non performing assets. Bad investor.


Really? Every automobile manufacturer that sells cars in the U.S. is
working VERY hard on electric vehicles.


Yeah, they are working even harder trying to get people to actually
buy those cars.
When they take away the $8000 government bribe the sales will go flat.


This article was from 2010, but similar article today eith same numbers in
my trivalleyherald times.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/30/auto...cing/index.htm

You like sending those rich people a government subsidy? Is not the poor
buying electric cars new.

BAR[_2_] December 6th 12 01:25 AM

This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
 
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:56:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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There is NO government requirement to produce electric cars, that is a
lie.

I guess you have never heard of California but it is the largest car
market in the US.

Google ZEV


ZEV's can be anything. I said there are no government requirements to
produce electric cars. If there is, show me.


I suppose you could be talking about a bike or a skate board but what
other ZEVs are there? Don't even start about the compressed air car
until you can show me where to buy one. You still have the problem of
how you compress the air.


If you produce an electric car I will give you this pile of money. If
you don't produce an electric car I will give the money to someone else.



Califbill December 6th 12 02:27 AM

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iBoaterer wrote:
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Meyer wrote:
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:05:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy
schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive.
This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the
poor.

Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating
facilities? They are subsidized you know....

The alternate energy subsidies are 10 to 20 times the subsidy for oil
and gas, (per KWH produced) depending on which you are talking about.
In gross numbers nuclear gets many times more money than oil and gas.

I notice you haven't answered about which alternate energy scheme YOU
have bought into with your own money. (other than that which was taken
without your permission by the government)
..


Loogy invest in alternative energy? He doesn't have the where with all. Snerk.

He says he is moving non performing assets in to electric cars, etc. No
wonder he has non performing assets. Bad investor.

Really? Every automobile manufacturer that sells cars in the U.S. is
working VERY hard on electric vehicles.


Sure they are. Government requirement. How much ROI in those electric car
companies?


There is NO government requirement to produce electric cars, that is a
lie.


You want to stay out of trouble with the government, you better be working
on electric cars.

Califbill December 6th 12 02:27 AM

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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/crdb3z9

If you really think this will be a net zero home you are delusional.
That tiny solar array won't even run the A/C for a 4500 sq/ft house.

You can pay a lot of electric bills for the half million extra this
house costs over the garden variety megabuck Rutenburg house.

You fail to get the point, and the rest of the article.

"Two weeks ago, he bought land for the first Zero Energy America
Village, a prototype community just south of the Pinellas-Pasco border
on East Lake Road.

The project will feature 1,600- to 1,800-square-foot homes with a target
price of $250,000.

"They will be amazingly healthy, totally green, and the homeowner will
have no electric bills," said Rutenberg. "The village will be the
proudest moment of our company to date."

Considering a 1600 sq/ft house is going for less than $200k up there
in cow country if it is a real nice one (granite and hardwood kitchen
sort of thing) it is still putting $150k down against future electric
bills.

Are you saying that a 1600 square foot home outside of Tampa is going
for $50k???? Are you nuts?

http://www.realtor.com/soldhomeprice...rice-na-100000

I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the maintenance costs
are and how well these collectors hold up to being hit by lightning,
100 MPH winds and flying debris.

I am still thinking about doing it myself but as long as this is a
high 5 figure or 6 figure investment, I can't make financial sense out
of it.

Yes, you and other right wingers have shown your disdain for anything
innovative and on the technological forefront.

Innovation has to have a pay-off.


Immediately? You do realize that most innovation is at first, not
financially feasible don't you? Do you think Orville and Wilbur's plane
on Kitty Hawk was immediately a financial success? Henry Ford's car?


Who was funding Orville and Wilbur? It wasn't the government.

Who was funding Ford? It wasn't the government.


Ford was noted for designing an assembly line, not for car design. And I
don't think the government financed him. He was a great businessman.
Example, he even got money for his wood waste. Kingsford was his brother
in law.


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