Cowardly Kevin Noble is out trolling again...
 

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JustWait wrote:
On 12/2/2012 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0500, iBoaterer
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http://tinyurl.com/crdb3z9

If you really think this will be a net zero home you are
delusional.
That tiny solar array won't even run the A/C for a 4500
sq/ft house.

You can pay a lot of electric bills for the half million
extra this
house costs over the garden variety megabuck Rutenburg
house.


Even if it was a zero sum home. Those that can afford a
4000'+ home
should
be able to afford electricity. Part of our housing problem is
all these
middle class or lower people who just needed a large mansion.
Hang the
cost vs. income, I got a cheap loan!

Affording electricity has NOTHING to do with it.


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It has lots to do with it in this case.

No, it doesn't.
How much energy are those solar panels going to save? Consider
the energy
to make a small home system. Cheaper to buy the electricity, and
may even
be more energy efficient.

It's a net zero home, fool. You do know what that means, don't
you?

How much energy was expended to generate the "net zero"?

You are babbling like Scotty now.....

Well how much energy did it take to make the solar panel and
controls?
Will that amount of energy be recovered over the life of the panels?
You
are the babbling and grasping at straws.

How much energy does it cost to build a coal fired plant? A nuclear
plant?

A lot, but per customer a heck of a lot less than a home solar panel.
If
it was a financially viable solution, utilities would be building lots
of
solar plants, and you would not need a 25% tax credit to install them.

Cite?

You research the contrarian view and cite that. Not up to me to do your
research.

As expected.


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Can not expect you to not be intellectually lazy.

This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
 

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:17:06 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Again, there is NO "government requirement to produce electric cars".

There is an $8000 subsidy to buy one and at least one state that will
require your car to be ZEV to register it so this is a distinction
without a difference.

Bull****. In CA you can get '60's vintage cars registered that surely
don't meet there strict emissions regulations. Show me where in any
state you'll only be able to register an ZEV vehicle. Show me.

You are an idiot.

True you can register that 60's car. You have to register it. If you have
an unregistered car on your property, they can come and confiscate said
vehicle. May be a $500k classic, but they will take it and crush it.
Older cars, before smog controls are exempt from same. The state under
dictator Brown, has passed mpg rules, where a manufacturer will have to
sell lots of ZEV to be able to sell cars people want and need. So those
people buying a larger vehicle will be subsidizing those who buy a ZEV.

But Greg said that cars will be REQUIRED to be ZEV's to be registered,
that is bull****.

I am not sure how the PRC will enforce their new ZEV mandate but I am
sure they will.
What happens in California usually oozes it's way across the country.

It is cheaper for the manufacturers to make build just one type rather
than 10, 20, 30 or more types.