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This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
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Cowardly Kevin Noble is out trolling again...
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, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 185336218376284656.888165bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article 1493745639376183490.518525bmckeenospam- , says... JustWait wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/crdb3z9 If you really think this will be a net zero home you are delusional. That tiny solar array won't even run the A/C for a 4500 sq/ft house. You can pay a lot of electric bills for the half million extra this house costs over the garden variety megabuck Rutenburg house. Even if it was a zero sum home. Those that can afford a 4000'+ home should be able to afford electricity. Part of our housing problem is all these middle class or lower people who just needed a large mansion. Hang the cost vs. income, I got a cheap loan! Affording electricity has NOTHING to do with it. -------------------------- It has lots to do with it in this case. No, it doesn't. How much energy are those solar panels going to save? Consider the energy to make a small home system. Cheaper to buy the electricity, and may even be more energy efficient. It's a net zero home, fool. You do know what that means, don't you? How much energy was expended to generate the "net zero"? You are babbling like Scotty now..... |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 326718259376344721.561541bmckeenospam- , says... Meyer wrote: On 12/4/2012 12:03 PM, wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:05:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive. This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the poor. Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating facilities? They are subsidized you know.... The alternate energy subsidies are 10 to 20 times the subsidy for oil and gas, (per KWH produced) depending on which you are talking about. In gross numbers nuclear gets many times more money than oil and gas. I notice you haven't answered about which alternate energy scheme YOU have bought into with your own money. (other than that which was taken without your permission by the government) .. Loogy invest in alternative energy? He doesn't have the where with all. Snerk. He says he is moving non performing assets in to electric cars, etc. No wonder he has non performing assets. Bad investor. Really? Every automobile manufacturer that sells cars in the U.S. is working VERY hard on electric vehicles. Sure they are. Government requirement. How much ROI in those electric car companies? |
Cowardly Kevin Noble is out trolling again...
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 107555478376348352.875653bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 185336218376284656.888165bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article 1493745639376183490.518525bmckeenospam- , says... JustWait wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/crdb3z9 If you really think this will be a net zero home you are delusional. That tiny solar array won't even run the A/C for a 4500 sq/ft house. You can pay a lot of electric bills for the half million extra this house costs over the garden variety megabuck Rutenburg house. Even if it was a zero sum home. Those that can afford a 4000'+ home should be able to afford electricity. Part of our housing problem is all these middle class or lower people who just needed a large mansion. Hang the cost vs. income, I got a cheap loan! Affording electricity has NOTHING to do with it. -------------------------- It has lots to do with it in this case. No, it doesn't. How much energy are those solar panels going to save? Consider the energy to make a small home system. Cheaper to buy the electricity, and may even be more energy efficient. It's a net zero home, fool. You do know what that means, don't you? How much energy was expended to generate the "net zero"? You are babbling like Scotty now..... Well how much energy did it take to make the solar panel and controls? Will that amount of energy be recovered over the life of the panels? You are the babbling and grasping at straws. |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
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says... In article , says... On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:43:45 -0500, BAR wrote: I am still thinking about doing it myself but as long as this is a high 5 figure or 6 figure investment, I can't make financial sense out of it. Yes, you and other right wingers have shown your disdain for anything innovative and on the technological forefront. Innovation has to have a pay-off. I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive. This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the poor. Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating facilities? They are subsidized you know.... . Subsidized or regulated? |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can'tbe done!
On 12/4/2012 6:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:28:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:05:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive. This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the poor. Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating facilities? They are subsidized you know.... The alternate energy subsidies are 10 to 20 times the subsidy for oil and gas, (per KWH produced) depending on which you are talking about. In gross numbers nuclear gets many times more money than oil and gas. I notice you haven't answered about which alternate energy scheme YOU have bought into with your own money. (other than that which was taken without your permission by the government) . I have solar collectors for my pool. I have stock in First Solar, and Future Fuel. Next I will be moving some non-performing stocks to the electric car area. You? I watched my Westinghouse solar stock go to zero, does that count? My T Boone Pickens is doing pretty well (CLNE). That is a nat gas stock disguised as a wind power stock tho I see your First Solar is not doing so well either, down about 75% from it's 52 week high. "Future Fuel" is a no hit on Yahoo Finance. Which electric car company would you invest in? Give him time to google.... remember, we have asked this before and it went unaddressed. It's just a loogieism... |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
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says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:12:00 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/crdb3z9 If you really think this will be a net zero home you are delusional. That tiny solar array won't even run the A/C for a 4500 sq/ft house. You can pay a lot of electric bills for the half million extra this house costs over the garden variety megabuck Rutenburg house. You fail to get the point, and the rest of the article. "Two weeks ago, he bought land for the first Zero Energy America Village, a prototype community just south of the Pinellas-Pasco border on East Lake Road. The project will feature 1,600- to 1,800-square-foot homes with a target price of $250,000. "They will be amazingly healthy, totally green, and the homeowner will have no electric bills," said Rutenberg. "The village will be the proudest moment of our company to date." Considering a 1600 sq/ft house is going for less than $200k up there in cow country if it is a real nice one (granite and hardwood kitchen sort of thing) it is still putting $150k down against future electric bills. Are you saying that a 1600 square foot home outside of Tampa is going for $50k???? Are you nuts? http://www.realtor.com/soldhomeprice...rice-na-100000 I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the maintenance costs are and how well these collectors hold up to being hit by lightning, 100 MPH winds and flying debris. I am still thinking about doing it myself but as long as this is a high 5 figure or 6 figure investment, I can't make financial sense out of it. Yes, you and other right wingers have shown your disdain for anything innovative and on the technological forefront. Innovation has to have a pay-off. Immediately? You do realize that most innovation is at first, not financially feasible don't you? Do you think Orville and Wilbur's plane on Kitty Hawk was immediately a financial success? Henry Ford's car? Who was funding Orville and Wilbur? It wasn't the government. Who was funding Ford? It wasn't the government. |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
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says... In article , says... On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:43:45 -0500, BAR wrote: I am still thinking about doing it myself but as long as this is a high 5 figure or 6 figure investment, I can't make financial sense out of it. Yes, you and other right wingers have shown your disdain for anything innovative and on the technological forefront. Innovation has to have a pay-off. I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive. This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the poor. Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating facilities? They are subsidized you know.... . Are they subsidized or regulated? |
This guy doesn't realize that Scientist Scotty says this can't be done!
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says... In article , says... On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:05:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I am really amazed at the left's fascination with alternate energy schemes that use massive government subsidies to make them attractive. This is the quintessential welfare for the rich at the expense of the poor. Do you mean like the oil industry? Or our current electric generating facilities? They are subsidized you know.... The alternate energy subsidies are 10 to 20 times the subsidy for oil and gas, (per KWH produced) depending on which you are talking about. In gross numbers nuclear gets many times more money than oil and gas. I notice you haven't answered about which alternate energy scheme YOU have bought into with your own money. (other than that which was taken without your permission by the government) . I have solar collectors for my pool. I have stock in First Solar, and Future Fuel. Next I will be moving some non-performing stocks to the electric car area. You? Who or what produces the electricity that is put into cars? |
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