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On 7/26/2012 5:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:25:44 -0400, Meyer wrote:

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s

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It's unfortunate when people are out of work but you really have to
wonder just how much that tattoo and the new child cost. My wife and
I delayed having children until we felt financially secure. Has that
become some sort of old fashioned notion?

Ya, I waited till I was 36.
Mikek

I waited until I got married.

On 7/27/12 7:56 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/26/2012 5:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:25:44 -0400, Meyer wrote:

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s

===

It's unfortunate when people are out of work but you really have to
wonder just how much that tattoo and the new child cost. My wife and
I delayed having children until we felt financially secure. Has that
become some sort of old fashioned notion?

Ya, I waited till I was 36.
Mikek

I waited until I got married.



You didn't get a tattoo while you were in the marines, guarding latrines?

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/14123

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.

On 7/27/12 8:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.



It's on a right-wing blog site and therefore it refutes itself.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:43:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 8:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.



It's on a right-wing blog site and therefore it refutes itself.

In other words, you're unable - because it's true.

On 7/27/12 10:23 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:43:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 8:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.



It's on a right-wing blog site and therefore it refutes itself.

In other words, you're unable - because it's true.



No, John. It's from a right-wing blog site and therefore there is no
reason to even consider it.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:27:45 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 10:23 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:43:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 8:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.



It's on a right-wing blog site and therefore it refutes itself.

In other words, you're unable - because it's true.



No, John. It's from a right-wing blog site and therefore there is no
reason to even consider it.

I suppose this is a right-wing blog site also?

http://tinyurl.com/7a5ec6b

On 7/27/12 10:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:27:45 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 10:23 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:43:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 8:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:56 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/27/12 7:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:56:50 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 7/26/2012 3:25 PM, Meyer wrote:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...st-since-1960s


I hope and pray that a proper mindset and willingness to work and
save will still get you ahead in this country. With more and more people
looking to the government to solve all their financial woes,
I don't know how long the producers and savers can continue.
I have two kids in college, one graduates in December the other just
started, I hope they can do as well as their parents, but I have my
doubts with the growth of the entitlement society. *The takers are about
to get more than the producers can give.
It is a sad time for America.
Mikek

* yes I understand when someone is hungry we need to feed them,
but it is so easy to get taxpayer money that many just don't get
desperate enough to start pounding the streets to earn a living.
In 1962 6% of households were on welfare. Today 35% of households
get some type of welfare. Are things really that much worse? Or has
the mindset changed to where people "need" the **finer things in life,
instead of food and shelter.

** TV, cable, computers, internet access, cellphones, dvd players,
ipods, itunes, big wheels and low profile tires, fast food, xbox's
video games, expensive tennis shoes, name brand jackets, professional
hair care, the list of wants is very long, the real needs are are few.
I'm sorry if you don't have all the wants, but I see to many people
that work to get ahead and make it. It is very possible, if you develop
the mindset not to live a life of poverty and welfare.

I'm so discouraged to see bums (homeless yes, but still bums) around
me everyday just killing time while I work my 11 hour day, so they can
get there EBT.


It's getting worse: http://patriotpost.us/

You have to admit, it's a good way to buy votes.


You have to admit, if you read it on a right-wing bull**** blog site
like patriotpost, it's just...bull****.

Unlike you, the article is not full of lies and bull****.

Refute it - if you're man enough.



It's on a right-wing blog site and therefore it refutes itself.

In other words, you're unable - because it's true.



No, John. It's from a right-wing blog site and therefore there is no
reason to even consider it.

I suppose this is a right-wing blog site also?

http://tinyurl.com/7a5ec6b



The writer is just another right-wing bull****ter. I give the right all
the credibility it deserves which, these days, is none. The hard times
we are in right now are a direct result of right-wing actions to further
enrich the rich, to initiate two costly and unnecessary wars, to defund
local and state governments, and to **** over the poor and middle clase.

Your party has made Congress useless. Your party's presumptive nominee
is a liar, possibly a crook, and clueless. He's out playing neo-con,
just like the assholes in the Bush Administration did, and rattling
sabers everywhere.

GM is alive and Osama bin Laden is dead. That statement would not be
possible with the Republicans in charge of the White House.