Yo Tim!
 

In article om,
says...

On 7/29/2012 9:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/29/12 9:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 29, 6:42 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:









On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:
Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of
the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,
but no answer.

CZ 97B if you are man enough.

I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You
reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?
How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?

I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese
people.
I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP
than the run
of the mill 1911's.

The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple
million
dollars worth of them

They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special
ops
guys carry

No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified.

The M45

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-...


I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is
useful in combat is in condition 1.

OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'?

There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked,
and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety
off
and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol
has a
safety.

I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the
chamber,
the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you
could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot."

Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol
"about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it
include safe handling?

Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing
about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the
target.

You'd better be able to clean it also. Most armorers get ****ed when a
dirty weapon is turned in.

Harry's just being his usual.



Naw. Just surprised that in your many qualifications, you apparently
weren't taught much about pistols. The most basic safety course at a
good range includes a discussion of "conditions" as they relate to
semi-auto pistols.

You would have made a M-a-r-v-e-l-o-u-s soldier, even if you were
relegated to a job in the company clerk's office.

Harry goes off half-cocked all of the time, he would make a great crazy
person.

Yo Tim!
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:



On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:

Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,

but no answer.





CZ 97B if you are man enough.



I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?

How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?

I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope
he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.

I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Are you looking for CC? If so, something other than the Colt is
advisable unless you are a really big guy in baggy clothing.

I'd go with the .40 rather than a 9mm.

I've been reloading for many, many years. The initial costs are a bit
steep, but amortize quite nicely with the amount of rounds expended.
Plus, it is hobby that lets you tailor what you chamber to its
specific task. You will be able to create boutique loads not available
over the counter.

Here's some prices. Just remember that automation costs more money,
but takes a lot of the repetitive (boring) motion out of the task.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/ci...ding-Equipment

My daughters liked shooting the .45 more than they liked shooting the
9mm.

Yo Tim!
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:41:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:11:23 -0400, wrote:

He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice.

I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun,
it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home.
Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply
stupid. This is just a musket at close range.
You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still
be able to get to it.

I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper.

I'm really lucky then, got two of those buggers! Keeping a 12 gauge under your pillow couldn't be
that comfortable, but I suppose there are those that do it! I'll just leave mine in the case in the
closet.

When I was in Md I kept my 97 riot gun under the bed and a 1911 in the
night stand drawer but we didn't have kids and discouraged people from
bringing them around.
I have grand children now and I keep all of my guns locked up.
(Florida law) although getting to my Ruger and my Baretta is a 2
second thing.
I could tell you the trick but I would have to kill you ;-)
The shotgun and M1A are in another locked cabinet, hidden pretty well
but not really a 2 second thing, more like 10.

I like building hidden compartments in things I make.

You should have lived in a better neighborhood when you were in
Maryland.

Yo Tim!
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:17:32 -0400, BAR wrote:

When I was in Md I kept my 97 riot gun under the bed and a 1911 in the
night stand drawer but we didn't have kids and discouraged people from
bringing them around.
I have grand children now and I keep all of my guns locked up.
(Florida law) although getting to my Ruger and my Baretta is a 2
second thing.
I could tell you the trick but I would have to kill you ;-)
The shotgun and M1A are in another locked cabinet, hidden pretty well
but not really a 2 second thing, more like 10.

I like building hidden compartments in things I make.

You should have lived in a better neighborhood when you were in
Maryland.

"Bad neighborhoods" have a way of sneaking up on you in Maryland.
You think you are far enough out of DC to be safe, then DC comes out
to meet you. It won't be long until they get out to Harry in Calvert
County. PG is a combat zone and Charles is rapidly going that way.
I am so damned happy to be 1400 miles away from that sewer.

Two years and I will be leaving this state for good.

Yo Tim!
 

On 8/1/12 4:55 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:17:32 -0400, BAR wrote:

When I was in Md I kept my 97 riot gun under the bed and a 1911 in the
night stand drawer but we didn't have kids and discouraged people from
bringing them around.
I have grand children now and I keep all of my guns locked up.
(Florida law) although getting to my Ruger and my Baretta is a 2
second thing.
I could tell you the trick but I would have to kill you ;-)
The shotgun and M1A are in another locked cabinet, hidden pretty well
but not really a 2 second thing, more like 10.

I like building hidden compartments in things I make.

You should have lived in a better neighborhood when you were in
Maryland.

"Bad neighborhoods" have a way of sneaking up on you in Maryland.
You think you are far enough out of DC to be safe, then DC comes out
to meet you. It won't be long until they get out to Harry in Calvert
County. PG is a combat zone and Charles is rapidly going that way.
I am so damned happy to be 1400 miles away from that sewer.

Two years and I will be leaving this state for good.


Well, that'll clear the air a little. Let's see...where would a
right-winger like you go...uh...South Carolina? Texas? Mississippi?
Alabama?


--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Yo Tim!
 

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/1/12 4:55 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:17:32 -0400, BAR wrote:

When I was in Md I kept my 97 riot gun under the bed and a 1911 in the
night stand drawer but we didn't have kids and discouraged people from
bringing them around.
I have grand children now and I keep all of my guns locked up.
(Florida law) although getting to my Ruger and my Baretta is a 2
second thing.
I could tell you the trick but I would have to kill you ;-)
The shotgun and M1A are in another locked cabinet, hidden pretty well
but not really a 2 second thing, more like 10.

I like building hidden compartments in things I make.

You should have lived in a better neighborhood when you were in
Maryland.

"Bad neighborhoods" have a way of sneaking up on you in Maryland.
You think you are far enough out of DC to be safe, then DC comes out
to meet you. It won't be long until they get out to Harry in Calvert
County. PG is a combat zone and Charles is rapidly going that way.
I am so damned happy to be 1400 miles away from that sewer.

Two years and I will be leaving this state for good.


Well, that'll clear the air a little. Let's see...where would a
right-winger like you go...uh...South Carolina? Texas? Mississippi?
Alabama?

You sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the south, bigot.
I've been to some very nice places in every state you mentioned.

Yo Tim!
 

On 8/2/12 8:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/1/12 4:55 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:17:32 -0400, BAR wrote:

When I was in Md I kept my 97 riot gun under the bed and a 1911 in the
night stand drawer but we didn't have kids and discouraged people from
bringing them around.
I have grand children now and I keep all of my guns locked up.
(Florida law) although getting to my Ruger and my Baretta is a 2
second thing.
I could tell you the trick but I would have to kill you ;-)
The shotgun and M1A are in another locked cabinet, hidden pretty well
but not really a 2 second thing, more like 10.

I like building hidden compartments in things I make.

You should have lived in a better neighborhood when you were in
Maryland.

"Bad neighborhoods" have a way of sneaking up on you in Maryland.
You think you are far enough out of DC to be safe, then DC comes out
to meet you. It won't be long until they get out to Harry in Calvert
County. PG is a combat zone and Charles is rapidly going that way.
I am so damned happy to be 1400 miles away from that sewer.

Two years and I will be leaving this state for good.


Well, that'll clear the air a little. Let's see...where would a
right-winger like you go...uh...South Carolina? Texas? Mississippi?
Alabama?

You sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the south, bigot.
I've been to some very nice places in every state you mentioned.


Every state has "some nice places," but I wasn't taking about beaches,
scenic overlooks, museums or other natural or manmade venues. I was
talking about where right-wing craziness rules the roost and is encouraged.

I like coastal South Carolina.




--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Yo Tim!
 

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/2/12 8:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

You sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the south,
bigot.
I've been to some very nice places in every state you mentioned.


Every state has "some nice places," but I wasn't taking about beaches,
scenic overlooks, museums or other natural or manmade venues. I was
talking about where right-wing craziness rules the roost and is
encouraged.

I like coastal South Carolina.

--------------------------------------------------------------

My oldest son just moved his family from MA to Mount Pleasant, SC.
Beautiful place, within a few miles of the Isle of Palms Marina; one
of my stops when taking the Navigator south to Jupiter, FL.

He's been emailing pictures of several local marinas with slips for
sale. Seriously thinking of another boat down there in about a year.
Just need to talk Mrs.E. out of her horses.

Yo Tim!
 

In article ,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/2/12 8:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

You sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the south,
bigot.
I've been to some very nice places in every state you mentioned.


Every state has "some nice places," but I wasn't taking about beaches,
scenic overlooks, museums or other natural or manmade venues. I was
talking about where right-wing craziness rules the roost and is
encouraged.

I like coastal South Carolina.

--------------------------------------------------------------

My oldest son just moved his family from MA to Mount Pleasant, SC.
Beautiful place, within a few miles of the Isle of Palms Marina; one
of my stops when taking the Navigator south to Jupiter, FL.

He's been emailing pictures of several local marinas with slips for
sale. Seriously thinking of another boat down there in about a year.
Just need to talk Mrs.E. out of her horses.

Mount Pleasant is a great place. If you son doesn't know about it, tell
him to go to The Wreck of the Richard and Charlene, or as the locals
call it, The Wreck. There is no sign on the place, but once you find it,
it's the best seafood in all of Charleston.

Yo Tim!
 

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:48:25 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message

m...



On 8/2/12 8:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:



You sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the south,

bigot.

I've been to some very nice places in every state you mentioned.





Every state has "some nice places," but I wasn't taking about beaches,

scenic overlooks, museums or other natural or manmade venues. I was

talking about where right-wing craziness rules the roost and is

encouraged.



I like coastal South Carolina.



--------------------------------------------------------------



My oldest son just moved his family from MA to Mount Pleasant, SC.

Beautiful place, within a few miles of the Isle of Palms Marina; one

of my stops when taking the Navigator south to Jupiter, FL.



He's been emailing pictures of several local marinas with slips for

sale. Seriously thinking of another boat down there in about a year.

Just need to talk Mrs.E. out of her horses.

Mt. Pleasant is a nice place, and there are lots more all over the state. The Lexington / Lake Murray area is one, and in the upstate the Greenville / Spartanburg area is nice. Almost no one from SC goes to Myrtle Beach, however. Tourist trap. Hilton Head is the upscale beach destination here. Edisto Island is a quieter, family kind of beach.

We'll be on the water in Charleston in about 24 hours. I'll wave in your son's general direction. Did he move down for Boeing?