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Yo Tim!
Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,
but no answer. |
Yo Tim!
On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:
Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. |
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Yo Tim!
On Jul 22, 2:18*pm, John H. wrote:
Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Can't find my phone, John. I sent Harvey the link you provided and I thought he was going to get back with you directly. I'll ask him about it. Sorry I missed the call. |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:14:09 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Nothing beats a Colt. That's what we're talking about. The guy I'm buying from has a bunch for sale. I'm trying to decide which I'm going to buy. I know it's not going to be a $3000 commemorative. 2272 COLT 45 "GOLD CUP" 45 FN13882 $ 1,500 242 COLT 45 M-17 20161 $ 1,000 2085 COLT 45 1911 C116193 $ 1,750 2094 COLT 45 1911 C91008 $ 1,000 2227 COLT 45 1911 520977 $ 1,000 1218 COLT 45 1911 ENGRAVED 802203 $ 3,000 2226 COLT 45 AUTO 460433 $ 850 2312 COLT 45 AUTO 22139G70 $ 1,000 2215 COLT 45 AUTO OFFICER'S 45 LFA9009 $ 800 1222 COLT 45 BISLEY 45 219421 $ 1,800 2263 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC20784 $ 950 2283 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC-80999 $ 900 2237 COLT 45 COMPACT AUTO CP08029 $ 850 2280 COLT 45 D/A 45 20037 $ 2,000 2271 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 299381-C $ 1,550 2273 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 290977-C $ 1,500 2239 COLT 45 LWT COM. 45 FLO3052E $ 800 2240 COLT 45 MI 99 A1 45 AUTO NNO1399 $ 850 2238 COLT 45 OFFICER'S 45 SFA8114 $ 875 2224 COLT 45 SERIES 80 2809890 $ 800 2296 COLT 45 SESQUICENTENNIAL 7X0930 $ 2,500 2223 COLT 45 SS 70G49585 $ 800 |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 22, 2:18*pm, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Can't find my phone, John. I sent Harvey the link you provided and I thought he was going to get back with you directly. I'll ask him about it. Sorry I missed the call. I'll call you again, maybe the ringer will help you locate it. Although, I suppose you've already tried that! |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 22, 2:18*pm, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Can't find my phone, John. I sent Harvey the link you provided and I thought he was going to get back with you directly. I'll ask him about it. Sorry I missed the call. That's OK. Got you anyway. Loved that line: "Only a total fool wouldn't realize he was a total fool!" |
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On 7/22/12 7:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:14:09 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Nothing beats a Colt. That's what we're talking about. The guy I'm buying from has a bunch for sale. I'm trying to decide which I'm going to buy. I know it's not going to be a $3000 commemorative. 2272 COLT 45 "GOLD CUP" 45 FN13882 $ 1,500 242 COLT 45 M-17 20161 $ 1,000 2085 COLT 45 1911 C116193 $ 1,750 2094 COLT 45 1911 C91008 $ 1,000 2227 COLT 45 1911 520977 $ 1,000 1218 COLT 45 1911 ENGRAVED 802203 $ 3,000 2226 COLT 45 AUTO 460433 $ 850 2312 COLT 45 AUTO 22139G70 $ 1,000 2215 COLT 45 AUTO OFFICER'S 45 LFA9009 $ 800 1222 COLT 45 BISLEY 45 219421 $ 1,800 2263 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC20784 $ 950 2283 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC-80999 $ 900 2237 COLT 45 COMPACT AUTO CP08029 $ 850 2280 COLT 45 D/A 45 20037 $ 2,000 2271 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 299381-C $ 1,550 2273 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 290977-C $ 1,500 2239 COLT 45 LWT COM. 45 FLO3052E $ 800 2240 COLT 45 MI 99 A1 45 AUTO NNO1399 $ 850 2238 COLT 45 OFFICER'S 45 SFA8114 $ 875 2224 COLT 45 SERIES 80 2809890 $ 800 2296 COLT 45 SESQUICENTENNIAL 7X0930 $ 2,500 2223 COLT 45 SS 70G49585 $ 800 Boring, overpriced and unadventuresome. |
Yo Tim!
On Jul 22, 3:18*pm, John H. wrote:
Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. " You dont want that Kid....you'll shoot your eye out !! " |
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Yo Tim!
On Jul 22, 6:21*pm, John H. wrote:
That's OK. Got you anyway. Loved that line: "Only a total fool wouldn't realize he was a total fool!" LOL! I thought you'd appreciate that.... |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:34:17 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:48:10 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:02:40 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:14:09 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. Nothing beats a Colt. That's what we're talking about. The guy I'm buying from has a bunch for sale. I'm trying to decide which I'm going to buy. I know it's not going to be a $3000 commemorative. 2272 COLT 45 "GOLD CUP" 45 FN13882 $ 1,500 242 COLT 45 M-17 20161 $ 1,000 2085 COLT 45 1911 C116193 $ 1,750 2094 COLT 45 1911 C91008 $ 1,000 2227 COLT 45 1911 520977 $ 1,000 1218 COLT 45 1911 ENGRAVED 802203 $ 3,000 2226 COLT 45 AUTO 460433 $ 850 2312 COLT 45 AUTO 22139G70 $ 1,000 2215 COLT 45 AUTO OFFICER'S 45 LFA9009 $ 800 1222 COLT 45 BISLEY 45 219421 $ 1,800 2263 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC20784 $ 950 2283 COLT 45 COM. COMMANDER 45 70SC-80999 $ 900 2237 COLT 45 COMPACT AUTO CP08029 $ 850 2280 COLT 45 D/A 45 20037 $ 2,000 2271 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 299381-C $ 1,550 2273 COLT 45 GOVT MOD 290977-C $ 1,500 2239 COLT 45 LWT COM. 45 FLO3052E $ 800 2240 COLT 45 MI 99 A1 45 AUTO NNO1399 $ 850 2238 COLT 45 OFFICER'S 45 SFA8114 $ 875 2224 COLT 45 SERIES 80 2809890 $ 800 2296 COLT 45 SESQUICENTENNIAL 7X0930 $ 2,500 2223 COLT 45 SS 70G49585 $ 800 They sound expensive. I guess I haven't bought one for a while. I only paid $350 for a SS Ruger KP90. It doesn't have the 1911 feel but it shoots tighter than my hardball and is D/A. The prices shown are higher than I will pay for the pistol. Those are the 'advertised' prices. I expect to pay about half for whichever one I choose. $400 is reasonable for a 1911 in good condition. Rock on Well, there's still the 'manhood' question our nameless friend brought up, but I reckon I've qualified with the damn things enough to answer that one! I'll keep you posted. Will be talking to the guy tonight. |
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? |
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On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:44:22 -0400, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. Yup, you're just a range shooter. Sorry. Now, goodbye for a while. You're still WATOABH. (Ask a farmer.) |
Yo Tim!
On Jul 28, 5:44*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them |
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On 7/28/12 8:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them There's nothing wrong with .45ACP, but it is kind of expensive to shoot. |
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On Jul 28, 8:00*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...-cqbp-pistols/ |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00*pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...-cqbp-pistols/ I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? |
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On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...-cqbp-pistols/ I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? |
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In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4-
, says... On Jul 28, 5:44*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ |
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On 7/29/12 8:48 AM, BAR wrote:
In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4- , says... On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ The logic of the choice escapes me. The new pistol has a capacity of only seven rounds. If the marine corp thought it needed a pistol with more stopping power than a 9mm (19-round mags easily available), it could have gone with a pistol that fires .40. And it looks like the taxpayers will be paying about $1800 a pistol...what a rip. Oh, well, it's the military. Wasting money is a high priority there. |
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On Jul 29, 6:42*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-.... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. |
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On 7/29/12 9:17 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 6:42 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. Oh. How big is the target? :) Gee, the first time you buy a handgun in Maryland, you have to at least watch a video at the gun dealer's on "safety." :) "Qualification" in the military doesn't include range safety or how to clear stovepipes or dud rounds? |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 6:42*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. You'd better be able to clean it also. Most armorers get ****ed when a dirty weapon is turned in. Harry's just being his usual. |
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On 7/29/2012 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/29/12 9:17 AM, Tim wrote: On Jul 29, 6:42 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. Oh. How big is the target? :) Gee, the first time you buy a handgun in Maryland, you have to at least watch a video at the gun dealer's on "safety." :) "Qualification" in the military doesn't include range safety or how to clear stovepipes or dud rounds? The military of today is a different one than the one you weren't familiar with. |
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On 7/29/12 9:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 29, 6:42 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. You'd better be able to clean it also. Most armorers get ****ed when a dirty weapon is turned in. Harry's just being his usual. Naw. Just surprised that in your many qualifications, you apparently weren't taught much about pistols. The most basic safety course at a good range includes a discussion of "conditions" as they relate to semi-auto pistols. |
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On 7/29/2012 9:17 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/29/12 8:48 AM, BAR wrote: In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4- , says... On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ The logic of the choice escapes me. The new pistol has a capacity of only seven rounds. If the marine corp thought it needed a pistol with more stopping power than a 9mm (19-round mags easily available), it could have gone with a pistol that fires .40. And it looks like the taxpayers will be paying about $1800 a pistol...what a rip. Oh, well, it's the military. Wasting money is a high priority there. Under the watchful eye of the CIC. |
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On 7/29/2012 9:40 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 7/29/2012 9:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 8:48 AM, BAR wrote: In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4- , says... On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ The logic of the choice escapes me. The new pistol has a capacity of only seven rounds. If the marine corp thought it needed a pistol with more stopping power than a 9mm (19-round mags easily available), it could have gone with a pistol that fires .40. And it looks like the taxpayers will be paying about $1800 a pistol...what a rip. Oh, well, it's the military. Wasting money is a high priority there. Under the watchful eye of the CIC. So, which big donor owns the manufacturing rights, or is it another Diane Feinstein (sp?) adventure like the millions to her husbands weapons companies? |
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On 7/29/2012 9:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/29/12 9:28 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 29, 6:42 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 7:07 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 8:00 pm, wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them They ordered the HK Mk23 tho I imagine. That is what the special ops guys carry No, actually Gregg, it's the return of the 1911 Colt.only modified. The M45 http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036-... I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? There's a round in the pipe, the mag is in place, the hammer is cocked, and the safety is on. All you have to do to fire is thumb the safety off and pull the trigger. Obviously Condition One presumes your pistol has a safety. I'm not sure what "condition" Glocks are in with a round in the chamber, the mag in place and the slide cycled. There is no safety. I guess you could call it "Condition Shoot Yourself in the Foot." Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. You'd better be able to clean it also. Most armorers get ****ed when a dirty weapon is turned in. Harry's just being his usual. Naw. Just surprised that in your many qualifications, you apparently weren't taught much about pistols. The most basic safety course at a good range includes a discussion of "conditions" as they relate to semi-auto pistols. You would have made a M-a-r-v-e-l-o-u-s soldier, even if you were relegated to a job in the company clerk's office. |
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On 7/29/12 9:44 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/29/2012 9:40 AM, Meyer wrote: On 7/29/2012 9:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 8:48 AM, BAR wrote: In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4- , says... On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ The logic of the choice escapes me. The new pistol has a capacity of only seven rounds. If the marine corp thought it needed a pistol with more stopping power than a 9mm (19-round mags easily available), it could have gone with a pistol that fires .40. And it looks like the taxpayers will be paying about $1800 a pistol...what a rip. Oh, well, it's the military. Wasting money is a high priority there. Under the watchful eye of the CIC. So, which big donor owns the manufacturing rights, or is it another Diane Feinstein (sp?) adventure like the millions to her husbands weapons companies? PyschoScotty made it to another Sunday! Oh, joy. The CEO of the Colt military/police firearms company is a long-time defense contractor. Hey, they're in the Hartford area...perhaps you could get a job there mopping floors. |
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On 7/29/2012 9:40 AM, Meyer wrote: On 7/29/2012 9:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 8:48 AM, BAR wrote: In article 5f25f29b-2433-4e89-9ce4- , says... On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/28/12 5:06 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm just a range shooter, John. I've never shot any Vietnamese people. I've found the CZ's to be more accurate in 9mm and .45 ACP than the run of the mill 1911's. The military still like the.45ACP.They just ordered a couple million dollars worth of them I saw that last night. The USMC is dumping the 9mm for the 1911 .45. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...c-orders-4036- m45-cqbp-pistols/ The logic of the choice escapes me. The new pistol has a capacity of only seven rounds. If the marine corp thought it needed a pistol with more stopping power than a 9mm (19-round mags easily available), it could have gone with a pistol that fires .40. And it looks like the taxpayers will be paying about $1800 a pistol...what a rip. Oh, well, it's the military. Wasting money is a high priority there. Under the watchful eye of the CIC. So, which big donor owns the manufacturing rights, or is it another Diane Feinstein (sp?) adventure like the millions to her husbands weapons companies? Actually, you need to look at the Bush administration for that answer! Bet you wouldn't have mentioned it if you'd have known that! |
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says... On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. Maybe the instructor thought you were slow. |
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On Jul 29, 11:15*am, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. Gregg. That's exactly the point i was wishing to convey when I said: "Harry, to "qualify" with a side arm, you don't have to know a thing about it,with the exception of pulling the trigger and hitting the target. " |
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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:47:38 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on- says... On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. Maybe the instructor thought you were slow. My dad taught me gun safety before I was 10 years old. Shot a .44 mag when I was 9. Started helping reload back then. It's sort of weird to think about a 60+ year old needing gun classes. I guess some of those yanks grew up with lace on their underwear. |
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On Jul 29, 12:34*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. FAIK, On some ships the US Navy still has M1 Garrands tucked away in their armories . They never use them so why switch them out for more modern arms? |
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