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On Jul 29, 1:03*pm, wrote:
On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:47:38 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training.. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. Maybe the instructor thought you were slow. My dad taught me gun safety before I was 10 years old. *Shot a .44 mag when I was 9. *Started helping reload back then. It's sort of weird to think about a 60+ year old needing gun classes. *I guess some of those yanks grew up with lace on their underwear. I owned a .22 rifle when I was 10 and a .357 mag. when I was 16. |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:00:26 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? I thought you were an army guy "Cocked and locked" (round in the chamber, hammer back, safety on) In all of the years that I worked around military security, the only time I saw a "condition 1" .45 was at NSA and that marine puts his finger in your belt loop. Most of the time they are condition 4, (empty gun). A guy who is good can load and get off an aimed shot in less than 2 seconds but that will be from a magazine in his hip pocket or waist band, not that pouch on his belt.. On the firing range, it's 'locked and loaded'. Off the firing range, it's whatever you need it to be depending on the situation. We never really discussed 'conditions' for the status of a weapon. |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. As I said, side arms were really not a priority back in the olden days. Your average GI did not get a lot of pistol training, nor did they actually get a pistol. The basic safety rules are going to be the same as the service rifle so they do get trained somewhat if you are army/marines. The Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are less likely to actually train everyone on small arms in any meaningful way. It is a need to know skill. These days I imagine the drug war has increased the need to know for the coasties. Harry keeps looking for the negative spin. What you've said above is basically accurate. The military, except for certain specialties, doesn't issue concealed carry permits. For most, the firing is done on the range or in a combat situation. |
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On 7/29/12 2:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. As I said, side arms were really not a priority back in the olden days. Your average GI did not get a lot of pistol training, nor did they actually get a pistol. The basic safety rules are going to be the same as the service rifle so they do get trained somewhat if you are army/marines. The Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are less likely to actually train everyone on small arms in any meaningful way. It is a need to know skill. These days I imagine the drug war has increased the need to know for the coasties. Harry keeps looking for the negative spin. What you've said above is basically accurate. The military, except for certain specialties, doesn't issue concealed carry permits. For most, the firing is done on the range or in a combat situation. Actually, I thought "qualification" included safety training. And why would you need a conceal carry permit for a handgun carried visibly at your side on a belt holster? |
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On Jul 29, 1:56*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 2:46 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory.. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. As I said, side arms were really not a priority back in the olden days. Your average GI did not get a lot of pistol training, nor did they actually get a pistol. The basic safety rules are going to be the same as the service rifle so they do get trained somewhat if you are army/marines. The Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are less likely to actually train everyone on small arms in any meaningful way. *It is a need to know skill. These days I imagine the drug war has increased the need to know for the coasties. Harry keeps looking for the negative spin. What you've said above is basically accurate. The military, except for certain specialties, doesn't issue concealed carry permits. For most, the firing is done on the range or in a combat situation. Actually, I thought "qualification" included safety training. And why would you need a conceal carry permit for a handgun carried visibly at your side on a belt holster? Harry, unless one is desirous to do some serious brig time. no one (with exception of authorized security personnel) walks around a military bass with a side arm strapped to their belt. |
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On 7/29/12 3:06 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 1:56 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 2:46 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. As I said, side arms were really not a priority back in the olden days. Your average GI did not get a lot of pistol training, nor did they actually get a pistol. The basic safety rules are going to be the same as the service rifle so they do get trained somewhat if you are army/marines. The Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are less likely to actually train everyone on small arms in any meaningful way. It is a need to know skill. These days I imagine the drug war has increased the need to know for the coasties. Harry keeps looking for the negative spin. What you've said above is basically accurate. The military, except for certain specialties, doesn't issue concealed carry permits. For most, the firing is done on the range or in a combat situation. Actually, I thought "qualification" included safety training. And why would you need a conceal carry permit for a handgun carried visibly at your side on a belt holster? Harry, unless one is desirous to do some serious brig time. no one (with exception of authorized security personnel) walks around a military bass with a side arm strapped to their belt. I know that, though I haven't spent much time on military bases. Fortunately. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:00:26 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? I thought you were an army guy "Cocked and locked" (round in the chamber, hammer back, safety on) In all of the years that I worked around military security, the only time I saw a "condition 1" .45 was at NSA and that marine puts his finger in your belt loop. Most of the time they are condition 4, (empty gun). A guy who is good can load and get off an aimed shot in less than 2 seconds but that will be from a magazine in his hip pocket or waist band, not that pouch on his belt.. On the firing range, it's 'locked and loaded'. Off the firing range, it's whatever you need it to be depending on the situation. We never really discussed 'conditions' for the status of a weapon. ------------------------------------------------------------- Many years ago, in a different time and place, I was "qualified" in both small arms (a military 45) and in the operation of a Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR). My qualification on the BAR consisted of about two hours of instruction by a Navy Gunner's Mate. Never heard of "conditions". |
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On 7/29/2012 2:03 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:47:38 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. Maybe the instructor thought you were slow. My dad taught me gun safety before I was 10 years old. Shot a .44 mag when I was 9. Started helping reload back then. It's sort of weird to think about a 60+ year old needing gun classes. I guess some of those yanks grew up with lace on their underwear. My Dad taught me all the gun safety I needed. "Never touch another mans gun, unless you intend to fire it, never fire a weapon unless you have a target you need to destroy"... He didn't say it quite that way but I am not gonna' put it the way he did:) Anyway, when I was about 12 he took me to a friends pond. The friend was a fire arms instructor (active duty) at the time and we fired a bunch of weapons, a couple years later I took second in a scout competition... Tim, when I asked my dad why we didn't have weapons in the house, why he didn't teach me to shoot he simply said. "Scott, I saw too much of what they can do in the war, and I don't want them in my home"... I never questioned him beyond that... |
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On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. |
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On Jul 29, 2:58*pm, wrote:
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. hey, I've got a hungarian police pistol in 9mm mak. http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts...75iwocvzv1.jpg nicely made little gun, but thee trigger pull is horrendous. It seem they're all that way, that is unless you have a smitty ' doctor' them for you. Enjoy the time you have with your dad. |
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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 2:58*pm, wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. hey, I've got a hungarian police pistol in 9mm mak. http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts...75iwocvzv1.jpg nicely made little gun, but thee trigger pull is horrendous. It seem they're all that way, that is unless you have a smitty ' doctor' them for you. Enjoy the time you have with your dad. I bought two CZ-82's in the 9x18 Mak caliber. Great little semi, 12+1 config, good for knock-around general purpose use. Russian ball ammo is cheap but dirty, just have to spend a few more minutes cleaning them after use. Dad's on a walker and still living alone (lost Mom last year), but he's doing OK all things considered, and with us kids pitching in. Little things like going to the range means a lot at this point. Thanks. |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 1:56*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/29/12 2:46 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:32:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/29/12 12:15 PM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:55 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Surprised you don't know this, since you "qualified" with a pistol "about a dozen times." What was your qualification about? Didn't it include safe handling? The side arm was never much of a priority in most military training. Your regular soldier was not going to get one anyway. They were just for people who would not usually have a rifle. If you are an MP or SP you should get extra training and I assume officers get some training but from my experience the officer's training is somewhat superficial too. I was in ordinance, working for a CPO who was on the USCG pistol team for a while so we all got more than the usual pistol training. I sought out as much as I could get and actually got a lot of range time. I also wanted to know how to maintain everything in the armory. I would have thought that proper "safety training" would have been a priority. When I took my training, I spent the first few hours in class with an instructor who showed us a safety video or two, and then spent the rest of the time showing us how to handle the firearm, how to field strip it, how to unjam it, how to remove stovepipes, how to store it, et cetera. We didn't even get to the range until halfway through the second lesson. The safety training is more range safety than anything else from what I saw and unless you actually get tactical training, you will not get formal training in clearing jams and such. Fortunately a hardball .45 doesn't really jam that much. Guys who get issued a sidearm that they are expected to use (guards, SPs and MPs) will get better training. The officers I knew did not really know much about the pistol and they really didn't have one unless they were in combat. We only had 6 or 7 on the ships I was on and the captain was the only one who had one out of the armory. As I said, side arms were really not a priority back in the olden days. Your average GI did not get a lot of pistol training, nor did they actually get a pistol. The basic safety rules are going to be the same as the service rifle so they do get trained somewhat if you are army/marines. The Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard are less likely to actually train everyone on small arms in any meaningful way. *It is a need to know skill. These days I imagine the drug war has increased the need to know for the coasties. Harry keeps looking for the negative spin. What you've said above is basically accurate. The military, except for certain specialties, doesn't issue concealed carry permits. For most, the firing is done on the range or in a combat situation. Actually, I thought "qualification" included safety training. And why would you need a conceal carry permit for a handgun carried visibly at your side on a belt holster? Harry, unless one is desirous to do some serious brig time. no one (with exception of authorized security personnel) walks around a military bass with a side arm strapped to their belt. The military does have folks who operate 'under cover', i.e., out of uniform. Their sidearms are carried, but not visibly. DIA, NCIS, and CID are some I can think of off the bat. |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:53:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:00:26 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:07:54 -0400, wrote: I am surprised they are going with the SA 1911. The only way it is useful in combat is in condition 1. OK, Gregg, I'll bite....What is 'condition 1'? I thought you were an army guy "Cocked and locked" (round in the chamber, hammer back, safety on) In all of the years that I worked around military security, the only time I saw a "condition 1" .45 was at NSA and that marine puts his finger in your belt loop. Most of the time they are condition 4, (empty gun). A guy who is good can load and get off an aimed shot in less than 2 seconds but that will be from a magazine in his hip pocket or waist band, not that pouch on his belt.. On the firing range, it's 'locked and loaded'. Off the firing range, it's whatever you need it to be depending on the situation. We never really discussed 'conditions' for the status of a weapon. ------------------------------------------------------------- Many years ago, in a different time and place, I was "qualified" in both small arms (a military 45) and in the operation of a Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR). My qualification on the BAR consisted of about two hours of instruction by a Navy Gunner's Mate. Never heard of "conditions". Somehow we got by without them. |
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On 7/30/12 7:15 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Good quality, fresh target ammo in 9mm is about 20 cents a round, about half the price of .45ACP. The boys down at Gander Mountain in Fredericksburg can fix you up for reloading. Seems a waste, though, when ammo is 20 cents a round. |
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On Monday, July 30, 2012 7:15:54 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Getting setup to reload is $300-400. A quick seach at Cabelas returned this starter kit: http://www.cabelas.com/product/RCBS-...h-All+Products If that link is broken, just go their site and do a search. Reloading isn't difficult, you just have to make sure you pay attention to the details. There are "cookbooks" that tell you how much powder to use with what primer and bullet. You can tweak it a little from there. When loading for accuacy, Dad would load 5 each at different amounts of powder (tiny changes), then we'd take them out to the range to pattern them. Find the best ones, then load up 50 or so just like them. |
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On Jul 30, 6:15*am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better.. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad burn up a few hundred rounds at the range, then re-loading is a good option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or rifle) around and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's not worth the set up etc. My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it? |
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On 7/30/12 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:15 am, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad burn up a few hundred rounds at the range, then re-loading is a good option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or rifle) around and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's not worth the set up etc. My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it? He can stash the reloading gear in the closet, next to his guitar. |
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On Jul 30, 9:46*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/30/12 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jul 30, 6:15 am, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad burn up a few hundred *rounds *at the range, then re-loading is a good option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or rifle) around *and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's not worth the set up etc. My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it? He can stash the reloading gear in the closet, next to his guitar. Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. |
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On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H. wrote: My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free. The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost, particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed. I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at the loading bench. You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf. I used to load some pretty hot stuff. BulkAmmo, the supplier of the Colorado mass murderer, has .45ACP at about $16 for a box of 50. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-...mjtulablack-50 -- I'm a liberal because militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy just doesn't work for me. |
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"North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. |
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On 7/30/2012 1:11 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H. wrote: My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free. The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost, particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed. I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at the loading bench. You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf. I used to load some pretty hot stuff. He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice. I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun, it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home. Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply stupid. This is just a musket at close range. You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still be able to get to it. I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper. I wouldn't give his opinion any credence until he has his first "incident" |
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says... On 7/30/2012 1:11 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H. wrote: My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free. The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost, particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed. I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at the loading bench. You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf. I used to load some pretty hot stuff. He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice. I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun, it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home. Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply stupid. This is just a musket at close range. You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still be able to get to it. I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper. I wouldn't give his opinion any credence until he has his first "incident" That's true, Harry is always condescending. |
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On 7/30/12 1:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Of course, that is not a problem with a well-made air guitar! :) -- I'm a liberal because militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy just doesn't work for me. |
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On Jul 30, 2:19*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. *It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. *only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: *(just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. * We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. * *Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them. |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Monday, July 30, 2012 7:15:54 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Getting setup to reload is $300-400. A quick seach at Cabelas returned this starter kit: http://www.cabelas.com/product/RCBS-...h-All+Products If that link is broken, just go their site and do a search. Reloading isn't difficult, you just have to make sure you pay attention to the details. There are "cookbooks" that tell you how much powder to use with what primer and bullet. You can tweak it a little from there. When loading for accuacy, Dad would load 5 each at different amounts of powder (tiny changes), then we'd take them out to the range to pattern them. Find the best ones, then load up 50 or so just like them. Thanks! |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:44:13 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Are you looking for CC? If so, something other than the Colt is advisable unless you are a really big guy in baggy clothing. I'd go with the .40 rather than a 9mm. I've been reloading for many, many years. The initial costs are a bit steep, but amortize quite nicely with the amount of rounds expended. Plus, it is hobby that lets you tailor what you chamber to its specific task. You will be able to create boutique loads not available over the counter. Here's some prices. Just remember that automation costs more money, but takes a lot of the repetitive (boring) motion out of the task. http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/ci...ding-Equipment Thanks to you too! |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:15*am, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote: Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call, but no answer. CZ 97B if you are man enough. I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man? How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry? I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me. I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking. My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad burn up a few hundred rounds at the range, then re-loading is a good option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or rifle) around and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's not worth the set up etc. My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it? Teaching grandkids to shoot! |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't get hurt for a month or so of sitting around. |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:11:23 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H. wrote: My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it take to get started in the reloading process? Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free. The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost, particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed. I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at the loading bench. You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf. I used to load some pretty hot stuff. He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice. I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun, it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home. Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply stupid. This is just a musket at close range. You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still be able to get to it. I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper. I'm really lucky then, got two of those buggers! Keeping a 12 gauge under your pillow couldn't be that comfortable, but I suppose there are those that do it! I'll just leave mine in the case in the closet. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't get hurt for a month or so of sitting around. ------------------------------------------------------- A month or two won't hurt it. A year or more will. |
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:54:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't get hurt for a month or so of sitting around. ------------------------------------------------------- A month or two won't hurt it. A year or more will. Too late, I just took the pressure off by a couple turns on each string. Now that I have a fantastic tuner (!!!!), I can retune it whenever I want. |
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On 7/30/2012 2:06 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:19 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them. Got room for a few fine ceegars in that humidor of yours? |
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On 7/30/2012 2:38 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: (just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't get hurt for a month or so of sitting around. Why don't you take it camping with you? It'll help keep the skeeters, and the humans that attract them, away. ;-) |
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On Jul 30, 5:27*pm, Meyer wrote:
On 7/30/2012 2:06 PM, North Star wrote: On Jul 30, 2:19 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "North Star" *wrote in message .... Speaking about the guitar...how is that going? Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. *It's been sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. *only opened up to re-fill the humidifier on a monthly basis. --------------------------------------------------- Tip: *(just in case you don't know) If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to detune it to remove the string tension. * We have people come to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an expensive neck re-set. * *Wood moves, especially when there is about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward. Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them. Got room for a few fine ceegars in that humidor of yours? Say what? No stinky cigars get near my house, Stinky. |
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