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John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 07:30 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, July 30, 2012 7:15:54 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:


On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:








On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:




Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,




but no answer.












CZ 97B if you are man enough.








I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?




How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?




I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.




I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.




My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got

me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it

take to get started in the reloading process?


Getting setup to reload is $300-400. A quick seach at Cabelas returned this starter kit:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/RCBS-...h-All+Products

If that link is broken, just go their site and do a search. Reloading isn't difficult, you just have to make sure you pay attention to the details. There are "cookbooks" that tell you how much powder to use with what primer and bullet. You can tweak it a little from there.

When loading for accuacy, Dad would load 5 each at different amounts of powder (tiny changes), then we'd take them out to the range to pattern them. Find the best ones, then load up 50 or so just like them.


Thanks!

John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 07:31 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:44:13 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:



On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:

Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,

but no answer.





CZ 97B if you are man enough.



I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?

How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?

I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.

I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.


My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?


Are you looking for CC? If so, something other than the Colt is
advisable unless you are a really big guy in baggy clothing.

I'd go with the .40 rather than a 9mm.

I've been reloading for many, many years. The initial costs are a bit
steep, but amortize quite nicely with the amount of rounds expended.
Plus, it is hobby that lets you tailor what you chamber to its
specific task. You will be able to create boutique loads not available
over the counter.

Here's some prices. Just remember that automation costs more money,
but takes a lot of the repetitive (boring) motion out of the task.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/ci...ding-Equipment


Thanks to you too!

John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 07:32 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Jul 30, 6:15*am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:


On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:


Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,


but no answer.


CZ 97B if you are man enough.


I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?


How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?


I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.


I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.


My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?


more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad
burn up a few hundred rounds at the range, then re-loading is a good
option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or
rifle) around and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's
not worth the set up etc.

My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I
know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it?


Teaching grandkids to shoot!

John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 07:38 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor
wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't
get hurt for a month or so of sitting around.

John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 07:41 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:11:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/30/12 12:21 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.



He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice.


I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun,
it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home.
Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply
stupid. This is just a musket at close range.
You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still
be able to get to it.

I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper.


I'm really lucky then, got two of those buggers! Keeping a 12 gauge under your pillow couldn't be
that comfortable, but I suppose there are those that do it! I'll just leave mine in the case in the
closet.

Eisboch[_8_] July 30th 12 07:54 PM

Yo Tim!
 


"John H." wrote in message
...

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips
slow down some. The instructor
wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just
detuned the thing so it won't
get hurt for a month or so of sitting around.

-------------------------------------------------------

A month or two won't hurt it. A year or more will.


John H.[_5_] July 30th 12 08:03 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:54:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H." wrote in message
.. .

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips
slow down some. The instructor
wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just
detuned the thing so it won't
get hurt for a month or so of sitting around.

-------------------------------------------------------

A month or two won't hurt it. A year or more will.


Too late, I just took the pressure off by a couple turns on each string. Now that I have a fantastic
tuner (!!!!), I can retune it whenever I want.

Meyer[_2_] July 30th 12 09:27 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On 7/30/2012 2:06 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:19 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and
loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them.

Got room for a few fine ceegars in that humidor of yours?

Meyer[_2_] July 30th 12 09:31 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On 7/30/2012 2:38 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks. Going to start the lessons this fall, after the camping trips slow down some. The instructor
wants a regular weekly time for his scheduling. Can't do it now. Just detuned the thing so it won't
get hurt for a month or so of sitting around.

Why don't you take it camping with you? It'll help keep the skeeters,
and the humans that attract them, away. ;-)

North Star July 31st 12 04:51 AM

Yo Tim!
 
On Jul 30, 5:27*pm, Meyer wrote:
On 7/30/2012 2:06 PM, North Star wrote:



On Jul 30, 2:19 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message


....


Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. *It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. *only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.


---------------------------------------------------


Tip: *(just in case you don't know)


If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. * We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. * *Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.


Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and
loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them.


Got room for a few fine ceegars in that humidor of yours?


Say what?
No stinky cigars get near my house, Stinky.


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