Yo Tim!
 

On 7/30/12 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:15 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:

Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,

but no answer.

CZ 97B if you are man enough.

I've qualified with the M1911A1 about a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?

How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?

I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. Very accurate. The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.

I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. I'll load them back up with something better. Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad
burn up a few hundred rounds at the range, then re-loading is a good
option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or
rifle) around and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's
not worth the set up etc.

My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I
know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it?



He can stash the reloading gear in the closet, next to his guitar.

Yo Tim!
 

On Jul 30, 9:46*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/30/12 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jul 30, 6:15 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:58:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:15 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 7/22/12 3:18 PM, John H. wrote:

Did you and your buddy ever come up with a suggestion of the .45 I'm going to buy? Tried to call,

but no answer.

CZ 97B if you are man enough.

I've qualified with the M1911A1 about *a dozen times. You reckon the CZ 97B requires more of a man?

How many times have you qualified with a .45, Harry?

I'm taking my 85 year old dad to the shooting range next week to shoot some pistols. *One we'll take is a 1911 that he hand built. *Match grade barrel, adjustable trigger, etc. *Very accurate. *The military grade ones are puposefully set up "loose", they rattle when you shake them, but it's on purpose so they don't jam with a grain of sand. *This one is tight and more accurate, and is sweet! *He's been promising it to me for years, but I'm in no hurry for it. *I hope he gets to shoot for sor many more years before it passes to me.

I've been reloading some lately, and need to burn through some .38's that are reloads I don't like. *I'll load them back up with something better. *Reloading make the .45 much more reasonable to shoot at the range as well! *The 9mm Makarov is super cheap when you buy in 500 round quantities, and good for plinking.

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

more than you really want to invest,. John. If a guy's gonna go out ad
burn up a few hundred *rounds *at the range, then re-loading is a good
option. But otherwise, if you're just going to have a side arm (or
rifle) around *and not planning on using it unless need be, then it's
not worth the set up etc.

My .357, 44 mag etc. I dont' go through a box of 20 a year. I figure I
know how to aim and shoot them . Why burn up brass for the heck of it?

He can stash the reloading gear in the closet, next to his guitar.

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

Yo Tim!
 

On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.



He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice.


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religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy just doesn't work for me.

Yo Tim!
 

On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.



BulkAmmo, the supplier of the Colorado mass murderer, has .45ACP at
about $16 for a box of 50.

http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-45-acp-...mjtulablack-50

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religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy just doesn't work for me.

Yo Tim!
 

"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.

Yo Tim!
 

On 7/30/2012 1:11 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.



He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice.

I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun,
it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home.
Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply
stupid. This is just a musket at close range.
You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still
be able to get to it.

I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper.


I wouldn't give his opinion any credence until he has his first "incident"

Yo Tim!
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.

Also, it's a time consuming hobby in and of itself!

Yo Tim!
 

In article m,
says...

On 7/30/2012 1:11 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/30/12 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:15:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother's trying to talk me out of the Colt .45 idea and into a Browning Hi Power 9mm. He's got
me thinking about it, that's for sure - especially when the cost of ammo comes up. How much would it
take to get started in the reloading process?

Reloading can save money if you shoot a lot but it is still not free.
The problem is bullets. They are probably the biggest cost,
particularly if you are talking about store bought jacketed.
I used to reload for my .38 with cast bullets and I could shoot pretty
cheap that way. The main problem is time. Unless you buy a very
expensive progressive loader, you are going to be spending a while at
the loading bench.
You do get the opportunity to make what you want but these days they
have very capable defense ammo right off the shelf.
I used to load some pretty hot stuff.



He's buying a handgun for home defense? A shotgun is a better choice.

I always hear that but if this is not a short barrel tactical shotgun,
it is going to be pretty unwieldy in the average home.
Any idea that this will shoot a wide pattern in a home is simply
stupid. This is just a musket at close range.
You also have the problem of where you would store it safely and still
be able to get to it.

I think home defense starts with a big dog that is a light sleeper.


I wouldn't give his opinion any credence until he has his first "incident"

That's true, Harry is always condescending.

Yo Tim!
 

On 7/30/12 1:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"North Star" wrote in message
...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: (just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.



Of course, that is not a problem with a well-made air guitar! :)

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I'm a liberal because militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying
religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy just doesn't work for me.

Yo Tim!
 

On Jul 30, 2:19*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message

...

Speaking about the guitar...how is that going?
Maybe this winter I'll dust mine off and go another round. *It's been
sitting there for 3 or 4 years.. *only opened up to re-fill the
humidifier on a monthly basis.

---------------------------------------------------

Tip: *(just in case you don't know)

If you rarely play the guitar it's a good idea to
detune it to remove the string tension. * We have people come
to the shop regularly who dug out their old acoustic or hollowbody
after sitting it it's case for years only to find out it now needs an
expensive neck re-set. * *Wood moves, especially when there is
about 220 lbs of string tension trying to pull the headstock forward.

Thanks for the tip Richard. I had figured that was the case and
loosened the strings up to fit the humidifier in between them.