On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:34:30 -0400, Oscar wrote:

On 4/5/2012 12:01 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:36:41 -0400, X ` wrote:

On 4/5/12 10:23 AM, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote:

On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote:

On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!
At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.
Disowned then?

Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid.
--
Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get
bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau?
It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~
Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm?

Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't
approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry
won't leave him.

Damn shame.

Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously
have no real interest in boating.
Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls.



He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized
truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he
and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire.

Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized:
http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg

It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown
in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway.

And, it takes one of these:
http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009

to comfortably pull it.

Nothing oversized anywhere!

Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels
that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay!


I don't trailer it, Herring.
And she's tasted blue water more than once.

Hee, hee!

Has he offered you a ride yet?

On what, his Toyota?

On 03/04/2012 4:39 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote:





On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:

I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/

Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.

Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!

At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.

Disowned then?

Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid.
--

Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get
bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau?
It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~

Heard about it but Trudeau is an ass hole. Golden spoon fed
liberal-socialist loser.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

On 03/04/2012 5:57 PM, Earl wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/04/2012 6:09 PM, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Lame April Fools attempt.

Lets hope. East coast in Canada? Maybe not.
I really thought he was joking. Apparently he wasn't!

Isn't like US Ozarks are the only place people inbreed.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

On 03/04/2012 4:40 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:00 pm, wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:54 AM, North Star wrote:





On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:14:49 -0400, Wayne B

wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.

What to do?

===

Get a real man's truck?

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

Less than that.
--
Maybe where you are, jackass.
Our harbour is ice free year round.

Dare you to put on Florida shorts and go swimming for 60 minutes in
Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr or May.....

No thermal wet suit tricks either.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

In article 655c45c8-2c3a-4db3-8cb0-6a5795345937
@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 5, 1:30*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article bfa56d98-ce95-42f4-ac1b-
,
says...











On Apr 5, 9:15*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article b4903d94-0057-4c32-a8d0-e1baa9d466e9
@l4g2000vbt.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 5, 8:35*am, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, *wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote:

On Apr 3, 9:14 am, * *wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North * *wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!
At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.
Disowned then?

Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid.
--
Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get
bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau?
It was like an early Easter present. *~~ snerk ~~
Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm?

Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't
approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry
won't leave him.

Damn shame.

Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? *You obviously
have no real interest in boating.
Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls.

Karma's a bitch, eh Don?

Kevin, you seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure out of others
misfortunes.
I suppose having your own family drive you out of the state (even
Georgia) must have affected you deeply.
Find a support group and report back on your progress... or lack of.

Well, you keep calling me Kevin first of all. And I remember you saying
****ty things about his wife and his teenaged daughter, therefore Karma
IS a bitch, eh Don? Oh, and I'm about a 1000 miles from GA.


Liar.. I've never said one bad thing about your wife and kids.
If anything, they have my pity and compassion. I'm sure all those
years were hard on them.

I don't have a wife, and no kids that I know about.

On Apr 5, 4:02*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/04/2012 4:40 PM, North Star wrote:





On Apr 3, 5:00 pm, *wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:54 AM, North Star wrote:

On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:14:49 -0400, Wayne B

* *wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star
* *wrote:

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.

What to do?

===

Get a real man's truck?

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

Less than that.
--
Maybe where you are, jackass.
Our harbour is ice free year round.

Dare you to put on Florida shorts and go swimming for 60 minutes in
Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr or May.....

No thermal wet suit tricks either.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. *When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

~~ Snerk ~~
Our salt water is probably at it's warmest in September... I could
easily do that... October might be a bit of work.
Are you saying you can do that in those frozen Alberta ponds you call
lakes?

On 4/5/2012 9:18 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote:
On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote:





wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote:
On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North
wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North
wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport'
due
to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods
used in
this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class
boat...
the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I
can
upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs
the
40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be
overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the
RAV4 is
rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty
until I
reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat...
and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for
trouble...
sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor,
stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean,
instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be
simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
What the %$^&^%?
I thought you claimed to be a math teacher?
I figure it as roughly 133%
Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get.
1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.
Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my
vehicle's tow rating... it's not!
The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs.
At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't
handle the
bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that
people
he knows are doing it.
If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of
your
vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs.
Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4....
mmm
wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days.
I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to
trade
up.
I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of
vehicle
rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and
the tow
does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the
ability
to see the tow when turning, too....
A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but
not
over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the
tow.
General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely
result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc.
Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and
others.
Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If
someone was
killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly.
If it was my family member, it would cost him his life...
Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan?
Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally
insane activities.
What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned.

The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false
accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he
made
them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he
gets
it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench
again...

You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing
someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and
usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement.

So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie...


Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good,
Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like
you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a
price for it.



Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot
someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street...


I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you,
Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the
street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole
*broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into
him. You should remember that.


You'd empty the "whole" magazine? You keep touting your marksmanship
prowess around here. Probably just another one of your little fibs.

Or maybe you just like to administer and see carnage.

On 4/5/2012 2:34 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:34:30 -0400, wrote:

On 4/5/2012 12:01 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:36:41 -0400, X ` wrote:

On 4/5/12 10:23 AM, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote:

On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote:

On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!
At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.
Disowned then?

Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid.
--
Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get
bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau?
It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~
Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm?

Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't
approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry
won't leave him.

Damn shame.

Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously
have no real interest in boating.
Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls.



He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized
truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he
and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire.

Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized:
http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg

It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown
in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway.

And, it takes one of these:
http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009

to comfortably pull it.

Nothing oversized anywhere!

Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels
that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay!


I don't trailer it, Herring.
And she's tasted blue water more than once.

Hee, hee!

Has he offered you a ride yet?

On what, his Toyota?

No No No His brandy newey 28 ft Bayliner flybridge with the twin
intercooled supercharged 4 cyl Volvos

Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote:

Happy John wrote:
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote:

Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote:
On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote:





On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
What the %$^&^%?
I thought you claimed to be a math teacher?
I figure it as roughly 133%
Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get.
1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.
Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my
vehicle's tow rating... it's not!
The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs.
At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the
bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people
he knows are doing it.
If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your
vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs.
Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm
wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days.
I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade
up.
Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I
believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty
decent price for the Rav4.
5000# with the towing package:

http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000
"That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package
raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains:

V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine
oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/

That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved
down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be
mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either.

5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are
assumed to be working, I'm sure.
You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow
package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander.

And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend
keeping the trailer brakes in working order?
That would be insane.

On 4/5/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote:
Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote:

Happy John wrote:
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote:

Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North
wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote:
On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote:





On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North
wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North
wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due
to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in
this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class
boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can
upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs
the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.
Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be
overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4
is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until
I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat...
and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble...
sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean,
instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/
Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be
simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.
What the %$^&^%?
I thought you claimed to be a math teacher?
I figure it as roughly 133%
Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get.
1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.
Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my
vehicle's tow rating... it's not!
The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs.
At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the
bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people
he knows are doing it.
If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your
vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs.
Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm
wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days.
I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to
trade
up.
Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing
capacity's up around 3500lbs, I
believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where
they are you'd probably get a pretty
decent price for the Rav4.
5000# with the towing package:

http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000

"That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as
though an optional towing package
raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package
contains:

V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity,
heavy-duty radiator with engine
oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil
cooler and 150-amp alternator/

That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd
be afraid of getting shoved
down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course,
trailer brakes would be
mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole
lot either.

5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are
assumed to be working, I'm sure.
You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world
either! I can't see that the tow
package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics
of the Highlander.

And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you
think the fool would spend
keeping the trailer brakes in working order?
That would be insane.

Only an inconsiderate asshole would consider towing at 130%.