On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.

On 4/3/12 10:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.



Tow a boat from Nova Scotia to Florida?

Absurd.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:14*pm, North Star wrote:
On Apr 2, 8:32*pm, Happy John wrote:





On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:44*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/

Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.

What the %$^&^%?
I thought you claimed to be a math teacher?
I figure it as roughly 133%

Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get.

1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.

Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my
vehicle's tow rating... it's not!
The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs.
At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the
bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people
he knows are doing it.
If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your
vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs.
Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm
wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days.
I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade
up.

Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I
believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty
decent price for the Rav4.

On 4/3/12 10:14 AM, Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote:
On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote:





On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:
I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/

Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.

What the %$^&^%?
I thought you claimed to be a math teacher?
I figure it as roughly 133%

Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get.

1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.

Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my
vehicle's tow rating... it's not!
The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs.
At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the
bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people
he knows are doing it.
If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your
vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs.
Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm
wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days.
I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade
up.

Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I
believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty
decent price for the Rav4.


Good idea.

On Apr 3, 10:20*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article c8a61704-36b0-463f-a709-
,
says...







On Apr 3, 9:14*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:

I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/

Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.

Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!

At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.

It's your family members that are suffering because of your bad Karma.

Is that how it works Kevin??
Tell me again about your daughter's broken arms and your wife's
serious illness.

On Apr 3, 11:05*am, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. *A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. *You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. *With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.

Would I have to worry about getting 'shot' if I dare look at someone's
car?
True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in
Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow'
his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own.

On Apr 3, 11:09*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 4/3/12 10:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:





On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star
*wrote:

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. *A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. *You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. *With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.

Tow a boat from Nova Scotia to Florida?

Absurd.

That's right... real sailors sail down at the end of the hurricane
season and before winter hits. It's a short window.

In article 10c5a0ae-b493-474b-8bba-24cc93a999b6
@j15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 3, 10:20*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article c8a61704-36b0-463f-a709-
,
says...







On Apr 3, 9:14*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:

I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4
cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs.
Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this
model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the
'Legend 16 Xcalibre'
For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade
to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I
was planning on with the smaller boat.

Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading
my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated
for.
i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat.
What to do?
I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my
destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by
towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do
like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger
construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments
and a built in swim platform/ladder.
see the windshield models on the website..
http://legendboats.com/

Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked
the question.

Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma!

At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members,
kevin.

It's your family members that are suffering because of your bad Karma.

Is that how it works Kevin??
Tell me again about your daughter's broken arms and your wife's
serious illness.

I have no daughter and no wife, therefore, no broken arms or serious
illness. Seems as though Karma sure bit you in the ass though, eh?

In article 4b7afab7-71a0-42c8-8277-
,
says...

On Apr 3, 11:05*am, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. *A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. *You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. *With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.

Would I have to worry about getting 'shot' if I dare look at someone's
car?
True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in
Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow'
his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own.

Oh, bull****. Unless you guys up there are just scared chickens. I've
been all over Florida cities and never worried.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 4/3/12 10:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:54:42 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow
10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy.

Then you can get a real boat, too.

That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who
enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season..

===

A couple of thoughts:

1. A 4WD pickup truck gets through snow better than just about
anything else on the road.

2. You could get a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range that would
keep you relatively warm and dry in a chop, and give you a fairly
decent ride.

3. With a proper tow vehicle you could go south to Florida in the
winter.



Tow a boat from Nova Scotia to Florida?

Absurd.

Why?