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On 4/7/12 6:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 11:38 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:28 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? Thanks for proving me right.... Once again. Lemme see, you jump in a conversation to say something nasty, and when someone says something back, you bitch like a vagina... Please, little toady, you are the embodiment of nastiness. |
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On 4/6/2012 11:38 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:28 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? Thanks for proving me right.... Once again. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. |
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On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... There's plenty. |
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On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? How low can you go? |
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