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On 3/26/2012 3:48 AM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:24 -0400,
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, wrote:


I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without
hearing a word of testimony from the defendant.
If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there.

The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none
of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's
story.

I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but
if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may
have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat.
Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on
his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was
fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said.


You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling
for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling.

Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for
officers to arrive. Stand your ground will not be a successful
defense and will get overturned in your state legislature.

Bad, stupid law.


Oh, so only the great JPS knows what really happened... BTW, your
version (the new black panther party version) is not supported by the
facts we already have...


So do YOU "know what really happened"? Fact: the kid was unarmed. Fact:
The Sanford police knew Zimmerman well, because he was a hot head that
called the police so frequently that they often completely ignored him.
Another fact to add to that, he'd been reprimanded by the police for
abusing the 911 system. Fact: It took only a few hours for the
regressives to make it political. Fact: If he would have attacked me as
he did the kid, he'd have gotten his ass kicked a whole lot worse. Fact:
Zimmerman never saw the kid commit or attempt to commit a crime, the kid
was simply stalked and harassed. Fact: this Zimmerman, who the
regressives have put on a pedestal is a known abuser of women. He
assaulted his wife.
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In article ,
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:24 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, jps wrote:


I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without
hearing a word of testimony from the defendant.
If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there.

The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none
of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's
story.

I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but
if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may
have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat.
Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on
his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was
fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said.


You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling
for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling.

Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for
officers to arrive. Stand your ground will not be a successful
defense and will get overturned in your state legislature.

Bad, stupid law.


There is nothing wrong with the stand your ground law. Ther is something
wrong with Zimmerman.


I agree.


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On 3/26/12 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:58 -0700, wrote:

You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling
for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling.


The guy in the white shirt (hoodie?)was on top. Zimmerman had a red
shirt

Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for
officers to arrive.


He was told "we don't NEED you to do that". Not "don't do that" or
even we don't "want" you to do that.


Stand your ground will not be a successful
defense and will get overturned in your state legislature.

Bad, stupid law.


If Zimmerman's story is right, he wasn't standing his ground, he was
trying to get back in his truck. (retreating)
That is why I am waiting to see what the FBI says.
We have had a lot of people using inflammatory rhetoric without
hearing one defense witness or even hearing the defendant's story.
That is not justice. It is a lynching



Zimmerman murdered a kid wearing a hooded sweatshirt and carrying a soft
drink and a bag of candy. There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that
the kid was in any way threatening the shooter. In fact, the evidence to
date indicates the kid was chatting on his cellphone with his girlfriend.

The "stand your ground" law in Florida is nothing more than a payoff to
the NRA, and it leads to homicides in which it is difficult if not
impossible to prosecute the perpetrators.

There is no need for stand your ground laws. If someone breaks into your
house, you can shoot him in Florida. If you can fog a mirror, you can
get a carry permit in Florida. If you are seriously threatened on the
street, and let the prosecutors try to prove you weren't defending
yourself.

It's a stupid law and it needs to be trashed. If we had such a law up
here and a loud-mouthed troublemaker like one of our short posters here
walked into my hard, I could shoot and kill him and claim I felt
threatened, no matter whether I felt that way or not, even if he were
"armed" with nothing more than a can of soda and a bag of chips. That's
not the way a civilized society is supposed to be.






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On 3/26/2012 12:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/26/12 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:58 -0700, wrote:

You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling
for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling.


The guy in the white shirt (hoodie?)was on top. Zimmerman had a red
shirt

Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for
officers to arrive.


He was told "we don't NEED you to do that". Not "don't do that" or
even we don't "want" you to do that.


Stand your ground will not be a successful
defense and will get overturned in your state legislature.

Bad, stupid law.


If Zimmerman's story is right, he wasn't standing his ground, he was
trying to get back in his truck. (retreating)
That is why I am waiting to see what the FBI says.
We have had a lot of people using inflammatory rhetoric without
hearing one defense witness or even hearing the defendant's story.
That is not justice. It is a lynching



Zimmerman murdered a kid wearing a hooded sweatshirt and carrying a soft
drink and a bag of candy. There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that
the kid was in any way threatening the shooter. In fact, the evidence to
date indicates the kid was chatting on his cellphone with his girlfriend.

The "stand your ground" law in Florida is nothing more than a payoff to
the NRA, and it leads to homicides in which it is difficult if not
impossible to prosecute the perpetrators.

There is no need for stand your ground laws. If someone breaks into your
house, you can shoot him in Florida. If you can fog a mirror, you can
get a carry permit in Florida. If you are seriously threatened on the
street, and let the prosecutors try to prove you weren't defending
yourself.

It's a stupid law and it needs to be trashed. If we had such a law up
here and a loud-mouthed troublemaker like one of our short posters here
walked into my hard, I could shoot and kill him and claim I felt
threatened, no matter whether I felt that way or not, even if he were
"armed" with nothing more than a can of soda and a bag of chips. That's
not the way a civilized society is supposed to be.


If someone gains entry to your house by breaking in, Are you going to
shoot him? A simple yes or no will do.
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