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On 3/26/2012 3:48 AM, jps wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:24 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, wrote: I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without hearing a word of testimony from the defendant. If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there. The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's story. I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat. Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said. You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling. Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for officers to arrive. Stand your ground will not be a successful defense and will get overturned in your state legislature. Bad, stupid law. Oh, so only the great JPS knows what really happened... BTW, your version (the new black panther party version) is not supported by the facts we already have... So do YOU "know what really happened"? Fact: the kid was unarmed. Fact: The Sanford police knew Zimmerman well, because he was a hot head that called the police so frequently that they often completely ignored him. Another fact to add to that, he'd been reprimanded by the police for abusing the 911 system. Fact: It took only a few hours for the regressives to make it political. Fact: If he would have attacked me as he did the kid, he'd have gotten his ass kicked a whole lot worse. Fact: Zimmerman never saw the kid commit or attempt to commit a crime, the kid was simply stalked and harassed. Fact: this Zimmerman, who the regressives have put on a pedestal is a known abuser of women. He assaulted his wife. |
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says... On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:24 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, jps wrote: I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without hearing a word of testimony from the defendant. If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there. The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's story. I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat. Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said. You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling. Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for officers to arrive. Stand your ground will not be a successful defense and will get overturned in your state legislature. Bad, stupid law. There is nothing wrong with the stand your ground law. Ther is something wrong with Zimmerman. |
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says... In article , says... On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:54:24 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, jps wrote: I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without hearing a word of testimony from the defendant. If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there. The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's story. I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat. Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said. You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling. Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for officers to arrive. Stand your ground will not be a successful defense and will get overturned in your state legislature. Bad, stupid law. There is nothing wrong with the stand your ground law. Ther is something wrong with Zimmerman. I agree. |
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On 3/26/2012 12:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/26/12 12:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:58 -0700, wrote: You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling. The guy in the white shirt (hoodie?)was on top. Zimmerman had a red shirt Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for officers to arrive. He was told "we don't NEED you to do that". Not "don't do that" or even we don't "want" you to do that. Stand your ground will not be a successful defense and will get overturned in your state legislature. Bad, stupid law. If Zimmerman's story is right, he wasn't standing his ground, he was trying to get back in his truck. (retreating) That is why I am waiting to see what the FBI says. We have had a lot of people using inflammatory rhetoric without hearing one defense witness or even hearing the defendant's story. That is not justice. It is a lynching Zimmerman murdered a kid wearing a hooded sweatshirt and carrying a soft drink and a bag of candy. There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that the kid was in any way threatening the shooter. In fact, the evidence to date indicates the kid was chatting on his cellphone with his girlfriend. The "stand your ground" law in Florida is nothing more than a payoff to the NRA, and it leads to homicides in which it is difficult if not impossible to prosecute the perpetrators. There is no need for stand your ground laws. If someone breaks into your house, you can shoot him in Florida. If you can fog a mirror, you can get a carry permit in Florida. If you are seriously threatened on the street, and let the prosecutors try to prove you weren't defending yourself. It's a stupid law and it needs to be trashed. If we had such a law up here and a loud-mouthed troublemaker like one of our short posters here walked into my hard, I could shoot and kill him and claim I felt threatened, no matter whether I felt that way or not, even if he were "armed" with nothing more than a can of soda and a bag of chips. That's not the way a civilized society is supposed to be. If someone gains entry to your house by breaking in, Are you going to shoot him? A simple yes or no will do. -- http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:40:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: On 3/26/12 2:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:08:31 -0400, wrote: If someone gains entry to your house by breaking in, Are you going to shoot him? A simple yes or no will do. A more relevant question is if Harry got out of his car to get a better look at a street sign in the rain and some 17 year old jumped him because the kid didn't like the way Harry was looking at him, would Harry shoot? I've been getting out of cars in the rain in bad neighborhoods for more than 40 years. So far, no one has "jumped" me, so it isn't something about which I worry. You're not paranoid. You have no idea how paranoid whities feel. |
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On 3/26/12 4:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:40:07 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/26/12 2:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:08:31 -0400, wrote: If someone gains entry to your house by breaking in, Are you going to shoot him? A simple yes or no will do. A more relevant question is if Harry got out of his car to get a better look at a street sign in the rain and some 17 year old jumped him because the kid didn't like the way Harry was looking at him, would Harry shoot? I've been getting out of cars in the rain in bad neighborhoods for more than 40 years. So far, no one has "jumped" me, so it isn't something about which I worry.. You're not paranoid. You have no idea how paranoid whities feel. Oh, I have an idea of their insanity...Republican candidates, Republican talking heads, Republican teabaggers, bat**** crazy & stupid candidates like Palin, Bachmann, Santorum... |
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