http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

On 12/29/2011 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

You are preaching to the choir, Plume. Sober up.

On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:23:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

Fish on !!

On 12/29/11 10:32 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:23:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

Fish on !!


You tried, you failed. You need better, fresher bait.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?

On 12/29/2011 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?


Wonder if it was a Pahkah...

On 12/29/11 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?



Since we don't yet know what the boat in question was, perhaps the real
issue is the stupidity of trying to raise a *really stuck* anchor from
the stern or under many circumstances from the bow. There are techniques
that can help, but sometimes the damned just isn't going to come loose
no matter what you do from the surface. If you are doing natural reef or
artificial structure fishing, you're going to get a hard stuck anchor
from time to time. Rather than risking the boat or ripping off deck
hardware not designed for the stress of pulling up a hard stuck anchor,
the best bet is to cut the line.

When I fished the St. Augustine inlet area, I knew I'd lose a couple of
anchors there a season. After the first season, I stopped buying the
more expensive "Danforth" branded anchors and went for the less
expensive imitators.

On 12/29/2011 10:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers


According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.


Wayne already caught his fish, you.

Let's keep this boating thread going.

http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/show...-sinking-boats

On 12/29/2011 11:45 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 12/29/2011 10:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers



According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.


Wayne already caught his fish, you.

Let's keep this boating thread going.

http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/show...-sinking-boats


I like the first comment:

"I can tell you this much, if the insurance refurbishes my boat, the
first thing I will have done is the transmom being re-done and a
outboard engine tray added.

The salvage company operator stated that 90% of the swamped boats he
recovers are boats that have notched tansoms, I am shocked at how easily
my boat rolled."

Guess it's a trade off. There are always problems when you use the wrong
or a poorly designed tool. People get hurt.