On 12/29/11 11:53 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/29/2011 11:45 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 12/29/2011 10:23 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/29/11 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers




According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.


The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.


Wayne already caught his fish, you.

Let's keep this boating thread going.

http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/show...-sinking-boats



I like the first comment:

"I can tell you this much, if the insurance refurbishes my boat, the
first thing I will have done is the transmom being re-done and a
outboard engine tray added.

The salvage company operator stated that 90% of the swamped boats he
recovers are boats that have notched tansoms, I am shocked at how easily
my boat rolled."

Guess it's a trade off. There are always problems when you use the wrong
or a poorly designed tool. People get hurt.



Of course, a duck landing next to the bitty boats you once built would
swamp them.

--
Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex?

Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks
on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine,
and insurance coverage of contraception.

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W....

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:









On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard,
a professional standard applies.

maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed
neuro-surgon as well.

In article 41de5aea-3410-44d6-abf4-
, says...

On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:









On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard,
a professional standard applies.

maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed
neuro-surgon as well.

Now that's a good point! To be honest, back in those days when
neurosurgery and understanding the brain was in it's infancy, they were
doing nothing more than experimenting. They figured that the mentally
ill were disposable anyway.

On Jan 4, 9:04*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:









On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

Yeah, and it would seem they've done that trick before, with no
events.

"it ain't happened to us yet!"

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote:

On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach.

On Jan 5, 3:44*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

*wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line..

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach.

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:43:31 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-West-2-people-rescued-return-to-Ft-Myers

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

This must just be a Pinellas County thing. We have had two of these in
a couple years. (the football guys)
I assume you watched this in the news too. The mate said the rode
"snapped back" implying it dragged the boat backward and down.
They must have really had a strain on it, probably taking a running
start.
It really sounds like a roadrunner cartoon to me.

===

I wonder how many more of these "anchored by the stern sinkings" have
occurred that we've never heard about because the guys were lost?

We got an anchor caught under a log down in Little Shark River a few
years ago on the trawler. I locked off the chain and pulled it out
with the engines in reverse, probably generating close to 5,000 pounds
of thrust. The bow must have dipped down at least a foot before the
anchor broke free and that's with a 70,000 pound boat.