On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:









On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard,
a professional standard applies.

maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed
neuro-surgon as well.

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, says...

On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:









On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard,
a professional standard applies.

maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed
neuro-surgon as well.

Now that's a good point! To be honest, back in those days when
neurosurgery and understanding the brain was in it's infancy, they were
doing nothing more than experimenting. They figured that the mentally
ill were disposable anyway.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote:

On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach.

On Jan 5, 3:44*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B

*wrote:

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W...

According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern
after it became stuck.

"We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it
and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the
stern up with water"

It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like
it might have been.

They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft.

It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line
and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good
idea, either, and for them same reasons.

I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the
stretchy rode yanked them back.

This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid.

Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have
been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off...

I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have
thought about it.

I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what
the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they
snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line..

I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging
doing that.

Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway.

Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach.

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

On Jan 5, 11:09*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth
style that will have a lot more holding power.
That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are
pulling this up every hour or so.
If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing
anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a
hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it
free.
I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up
when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put
this on an expendable rode.

But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat....

I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get
obnoxious.

On 1/6/12 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth
style that will have a lot more holding power.
That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are
pulling this up every hour or so.
If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing
anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a
hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it
free.
I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up
when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put
this on an expendable rode.

But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat....

I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get
obnoxious.


Besides, the CMU more closely fits your image, even though by now you've
collected millions from our Nigerian partners.

In article ,
says...

On 1/6/12 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth
style that will have a lot more holding power.
That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are
pulling this up every hour or so.
If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing
anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a
hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it
free.
I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up
when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put
this on an expendable rode.

But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat....

I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get
obnoxious.


Besides, the CMU more closely fits your image, even though by now you've
collected millions from our Nigerian partners.

But Tim doesn't let those millions go to his head!

On 1/6/2012 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation
block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's
easily and economically replaced

For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth
style that will have a lot more holding power.
That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are
pulling this up every hour or so.
If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing
anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a
hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it
free.
I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up
when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put
this on an expendable rode.

But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat....

I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get
obnoxious.

Do you carry a spare anchor in case it chafes through the clothes line
it's tethered to the boat with. There isn't a red neck marine supply at
every bend in the river you know. ;-)