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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:37:18 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message om... Harry Krause wrote in message ... scottht wrote: Wow, this is one tough crowd. There is quite a resentment of Bayliners here. Glad I don't own one. Reminds me of the audiophile areas I frequent. Ever hear of Bose speakers? They are to audio what Bayliner is to boats. No highs- no lows-- must be Bose. I've never understood the clamor for Bose speakers. To me, they sound like...small speakers. When it comes to reproducing sound accurately, I don't believe you can fool the laws of physics. There are some very small speakers coming of age with awesome sound. Using ceramics, and rare earth magnets. I'm sure, but I don't know enough about the physics of accoustics to understand how a tiny speaker can move the air necessary to create the low sounds found in the serious music I enjoy. As an example, I have an old Hammond B3, with a Leslie speaker. It's a fine electronic organ, though certainly not state of the art. I can make it emulate a pipe organ, and it sounds fine doing so. But it doesn't sound like anything Dirk Flentrop built. In fact, I've never heard anything electronic that truly "sounds just like" a REAL Leslie speaker! And I agree about Bose - never liked them. Geez, they've been using ceramics and rare-earth magnets for 40 years... I have a Marantz 2325 driving homebuilt 3-way speakers (the wood alone cost almost $1000) Haven't heard a "modern" system that can beat it yet. Lloyd |
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In fact, I've never heard anything electronic that truly "sounds just
like" a REAL Leslie speaker! Can't be done, unless one set up an almost continuous row of speakers and figured out how to fire them sequentially. Much easier to use the real McCoy. The magic of a Leslie isn't just the rise and fall of the tremolo, it's the directional nature of sound as it reflects off of every vertical surface near the stage. A Leslie speaker literally immerses the audience in a nice, plump, chord. The electronic equivalent sounds exactly like somebody *recorded* a Leslie speaker. Not the same thing. Until recently, keyboard players have been plagued with staggering loads of gear. The poor guy dragging an awkward, heavy, bulky Fender Rhodes 88, (or the crew it takes to hoist a traditional B3) up a flight of steps from the loading zone has to look somewhat enviously at the guys carrying 5-pound guitars. Music is becoming so anemic. Every little electronic trick makes "live" music sound more and more like a badly engineered recording. You almost have to accept that in a small club without much of an audience all "drumming" will be done by an invisible robot......but some of the current technology is getting extreme. These "smart" microphones that make virtually anybody sound like they can sing, (and most especially harmonize), actually erase some of the characteristic overtones that make a good vocal talent a special treat. |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:48:20 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: It's a 21H leslie and if by turntable, you mean the rotor below the bass speaker, yes. But I'd still like a four-manual Flentrop and a barn big enough to play it in. When I was a young kid, I had a friend who's parents built their house around a pipe organ. It was pretty cool. Steve |
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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:58:24 +0000, Scott McFadden wrote: (Bob D.) wrote in message ... A. Qualify your remarks as your opinion B. If stating it as a fact, back up what you say with some shred of evidence Find me one offshore, six pack, diving or fishing charter from Key West to Fernandina Beach, FL that uses a Bayliner. Yeah, Florida is "the world". Harry is right, some of you are not careful readers. I did not say, or insinuate, FL was the "world". Here on the West Coast of Canada, the vast majority of fishing charters use Bayliner Trophies (or Hourstons or Double-Eagles, but "the world" doesn't know about them...). That is their problem. No doubt they're working protected waters, a few months of the year. So, they can hardly be compared to the year round, long range, type of offshore operations that I'm refering to. Brett on the Charlottes just traded his Hourston in for a Trophy, and yesterday there was Hurricane-force winds (60knots) and 10-meter seas there (not saying he went OUT in those conditions, but pointing out that they DO get "weather" there) In another month there will be probably more Canucks in FL than there are left in Canada. No wonder. Yes indeed, lovely weather you got there, Lloyd. -- SJM |
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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:48:20 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: It's a 21H leslie and if by turntable, you mean the rotor below the bass speaker, yes. But I'd still like a four-manual Flentrop and a barn big enough to play it in. When I was a young kid, I had a friend who's parents built their house around a pipe organ. It was pretty cool. Steve See: http://news.mpr.org/features/200001/03_postt_organ-m/ There is a great show on NPR: pipe dreams. If you like this sort of thing you can hear it online at: http://www.pipedreams.org/listings/shows03_09.htm Mark Browne |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:40:22 +0000, Scott McFadden wrote:
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:58:24 +0000, Scott McFadden wrote: (Bob D.) wrote in message ... A. Qualify your remarks as your opinion B. If stating it as a fact, back up what you say with some shred of evidence Find me one offshore, six pack, diving or fishing charter from Key West to Fernandina Beach, FL that uses a Bayliner. Yeah, Florida is "the world". Harry is right, some of you are not careful readers. I did not say, or insinuate, FL was the "world". Then how do YOU describe your "proof" that Trophies are universally unacceptable because there aren't any in FL? Also, see below. Here on the West Coast of Canada, the vast majority of fishing charters use Bayliner Trophies (or Hourstons or Double-Eagles, but "the world" doesn't know about them...). That is their problem. No doubt they're working protected waters, a few months of the year. So, they can hardly be compared to the year round, long range, type of offshore operations that I'm refering to. Sure. Protected waters. A few months. Don't have a clue about the rest of the world except SE US, do you? Brett on the Charlottes just traded his Hourston in for a Trophy, and yesterday there was Hurricane-force winds (60knots) and 10-meter seas there (not saying he went OUT in those conditions, but pointing out that they DO get "weather" there) In another month there will be probably more Canucks in FL than there are left in Canada. Showing once again you have no clue about the rest of the world. West Coasters go to CA, not FL (at least we used to before you got all Terrorist-paranoid). Can't say I know ANYONE on the West Coast who's EVER gone to FL for vacation (except maybe on their way to the Carribean) And I'll bet a Moosehead you couldn't find the Charlottes on a map. Yes indeed, lovely weather you got there, Lloyd. Yes, right now it's 12deg (that's 53degs F - most of the Rest Of The World uses a different system of measurements than you do) and sunny. Took the motorbike to work today. Thinking of going fishing this weekend. And speaking of weather, how's that hurricane stuff working out for you? Got your supply of plywood? Lloyd |
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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message .. .
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:40:22 +0000, Scott McFadden wrote: "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:58:24 +0000, Scott McFadden wrote: (Bob D.) wrote in message ... A. Qualify your remarks as your opinion B. If stating it as a fact, back up what you say with some shred of evidence Find me one offshore, six pack, diving or fishing charter from Key West to Fernandina Beach, FL that uses a Bayliner. Yeah, Florida is "the world". Harry is right, some of you are not careful readers. I did not say, or insinuate, FL was the "world". Then how do YOU describe your "proof" that Trophies are universally unacceptable because there aren't any in FL? Also, see below. Again, you demonstrate an obvious reading comprehension problem. I did not say they were "universally unacceptable". I said where I saw them, what they were doing and, where I do not see them. Here on the West Coast of Canada, the vast majority of fishing charters use Bayliner Trophies (or Hourstons or Double-Eagles, but "the world" doesn't know about them...). That is their problem. No doubt they're working protected waters, a few months of the year. So, they can hardly be compared to the year round, long range, type of offshore operations that I'm refering to. Sure. Protected waters. A few months. Don't have a clue about the rest of the world except SE US, do you? Don't give a damn about the West coast of Canada, that's for sure. Brett on the Charlottes just traded his Hourston in for a Trophy, and yesterday there was Hurricane-force winds (60knots) and 10-meter seas there (not saying he went OUT in those conditions, but pointing out that they DO get "weather" there) In another month there will be probably more Canucks in FL than there are left in Canada. Showing once again you have no clue about the rest of the world. West Coasters go to CA, not FL (at least we used to before you got all Terrorist-paranoid). There's that reading comprehension difficulty cropping up again. I did not say "West Coasters" do not go to California. Can't say I know ANYONE on the West Coast who's EVER gone to FL for vacation (except maybe on their way to the Carribean) How many of the +- 2,000,000 residents of Vancouver do you know, eh? And I'll bet a Moosehead you couldn't find the Charlottes on a map. +- 500 "kilometers" N of Vancouver, BC? I'll have a Molson, instead. Yes indeed, lovely weather you got there, Lloyd. Yes, right now it's 12deg (that's 53degs F - most of the Rest Of The World uses a different system of measurements than you do) and sunny. I think it's quite clear we don't care what "most of the Rest Of The World uses". Took the motorbike to work today. Thinking of going fishing this weekend. And speaking of weather, how's that hurricane stuff working out for you? Got your supply of plywood? I guess a whole lot better than it is for you as I'm not the one yapping about "hurricane force winds 60knots", you are. -- SJM |
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