On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:56:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

which kind of makes a mockery of the right wing claims about obama

On 14/05/2011 3:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:32:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:56:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

which kind of makes a mockery of the right wing claims about obama

If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical
conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to
love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother)

That is why the attacks are so superficial.

Yep, Obama, bailing out the corrupt. I liked Bush until TARP. After
TARP, just another corrupt idiot, like Obama.

Problem is US needs a president with balls to do the right thing. Just
come out and say it, "Bailouts are a form of corruption and I will not
willingly just bend over and do it!". Congress and the senate would
have to force it.

Get some decency into government, a president that represents the middle
class, not the lazy fleabagger class and not the corrupt class, the real
people that make the country work.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

On Sat, 14 May 2011 15:25:08 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Get some decency into government, a president that represents the middle
class, not the lazy fleabagger class and not the corrupt class, the real
people that make the country work.

Wouldn't that be nice. I haven't seen much hope and change on the
horizon however. All of the wannabe republican candidates are right
wing whackos and the democrats are the same old tax and spend bunch.

I wish Bill Clinton would run again or perhaps we could dig up Harry
Truman and revive him, conservative democrats so to speak. Where's
Barry Goldwater when we need him? He'd look like like a liberal these
days.

On Sat, 14 May 2011 15:25:08 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 14/05/2011 3:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:32:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:56:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

which kind of makes a mockery of the right wing claims about obama

If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical
conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to
love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother)

That is why the attacks are so superficial.

Yep, Obama, bailing out the corrupt. I liked Bush until TARP. After
TARP, just another corrupt idiot, like Obama.

canuck's never heard of the 29 depression, caused by the very policies
he favors. he has no knowledge of history at all. none


Problem is US needs a president with balls to do the right thing. Just
come out and say it, "Bailouts are a form of corruption and I will not
willingly just bend over and do it!". Congress and the senate would
have to force it.

how'd that work out in 29? america do OK?


Get some decency into government, a president that represents the middle
class, not the lazy fleabagger class and not the corrupt class, the real
people that make the country work.


HAHAHAHA the right wing wants to DESTROY the middle class. in the view
of the right, if you're not rich you should be a serf

On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:14:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:32:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:56:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

which kind of makes a mockery of the right wing claims about obama

If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical
conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to
love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother)

let's see...

obama proposed a single payer system that would put the insurance
companies out of business

but you righties ignore that

obama proposed strong regulations on wall street

the right opposes that

obama is getting us out of iraq

the right calls him a muslim

yes, i can see your point


That is why the attacks are so superficial.

On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:40:18 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 21:32:43 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:14:09 -0400, wrote:



If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical
conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to
love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother)

let's see...

obama proposed a single payer system that would put the insurance
companies out of business

Yet he brags about a system that did little but bring another 40
million customers to the same insurance companies that you hate at the
point of a government gun

uh wrong

1. he gives a subsidy to low income earners to buy insurance
2. he removes the policy of excluding pre existing conditions

if he'd had his way our healthcare system would be more efficient. but
folks like you objected because it didnt make the rich richer


.. Exactly ZERO republicans voted for that
bill or had anything to do with writing it. It was democrats in the
senate that killed single payer.

lotsa right wing democrats



obama proposed strong regulations on wall street

Yet the democratic senate came up with a fin reg bill that left most
of the abuses like too big to fail in place. Maybe it was because they
took more money from Wall Street than the republicans did.

actually the dems didnt. in the last election, 80% of wall street
money went to the GOP

you gotta keep up with the news if you're gonna argue facts

oh. i forgot. you're right wing you dont do facts

and the GOP fought the regulations against wall street. in fact the
GOP fought ANY regulations.



obama is getting us out of iraq

On the Bush schedule ... if he can actually pull it off. I will
believe it when I see it.

HAHAHA uh bush didnt HAVE a schedule. guess you just pulled THAT one
out of your....ahem...

He doubled down in Afghanistan

gee. wonder why that was

now let's see...how many islamists terrorirsts in iraq?

oh. zero


and there doesn't seem to be any end to
that war on the horizon, even though the excuse we went there is at
the bottom of the Indian Ocean right now. He wasn't even in
Afghanistan and hasn't been there for at least 5 years.

ah. no end to the war?

gee. he's said 2014 and he's making it happen.

bush never got close

and you're just not bright enough to understand why we're fighting the
taliban

you're just not very bright at all

On 14/05/2011 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

Agreed. But at least Reagan stopped the recession as he realized the
fundimental cause was government footprint on the people with taxes was
more than they could support.

Taxpayers are like grass, keep hair cutting them too low with no time to
grow and they disappear. Same kind of scenario with government, as it
gets too big to be supported, the economy/wages go to the crapper.

Sort of like "The Goose That Laid The Golden Eggs".

Best part, the longer this debt-corrupt-spend madness goes on, the worse
the ultimate crash will be. And the less the fleabaggers get in the end.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/05/2011 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

Agreed. But at least Reagan stopped the recession as he realized the
fundimental cause was government footprint on the people with taxes was
more than they could support.

Reagan not only increased the size of government, he raised taxes in
many interesting ways.

You really don't know your ass from the hole in Scotty Ingersoll's face.

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On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

And they weren't the biggest spenders in history. President Obams passed
them in the first year! This reminds me of the news. Progressives make
so many inaccurate representations in one sentence or point, you just
can't address them all...

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Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:36:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h wrote:

were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US
history


They certainly were not fiscal conservatives

And they weren't the biggest spenders in history. President Obams passed
them in the first year!

wrong. bush's last budget had a deficit of 1.2 TRILLION.

but he's white...so we can't blame him


This reminds me of the news. Progressives make
so many inaccurate representations in one sentence or point, you just
can't address them all...


HAHAHAHA and you notice he LIES about bush then blames the black guy!