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A thousand dollars for food per month? WOW!!
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says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:23:53 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 11:46:19 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:49:43 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:10:53 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:29:33 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 11:54:28 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 13:56:55 -0400, wrote: John H wrote: Note the fine print: "Giant Gas Rewards points will expire 30 days from date of issuance." So, all Harry has to do is spend $1000 at Giant in 30 days, and within the same 30 days he can save $1 per gallon on gas. So, in order to get a $1.00 per gallon discount, you must spend $1000 to earn 1000 points. Gee, what a math whiz... Just to add to the fun: Every week, I spend the following at Giant on our indoor pets: Petfood $ 30 Clean Litter $ 52 That's $82 a week x 4 weeks = $328. That's 328 of 1000 points. How many cats do you have? I'm guessing he has two? I spend about 1/2 that on food. I buy the litter in bulk and it lasts forever. I was just curious. I have a 100 pound dog and he only eats about $15 a month in food, plus whatever he gets from our meat scraps. I spend more on dog treats. Every good deed gets a "cookie". The up side to that is he is getting a lot more civilized. Not bad for a "3 time loser" at the pound. You must buy the kibble in bulk? He seems to do best on Costco "healthy weight" and that is about $18 a 40# bag. I have tried several other brands, including some real "foo foo" stuff the vet is pushing. I watch the intake and output to decide how he is doing. The ingredient list is pretty good too, I posted it here a while ago. My cats won't go near the food the vets sell, especially the Hill's Prescription Diet, wet or dry. Our outdoor friends, the foxes, raccoons, possums, et cetera, all go for Purina Dog Chow, so we buy a couple of big bags of it for them each month. We also give them leftovers. A stand of forest a few miles away was just clearcut by a homebuilder/developer. That means a lot more critters are now homeless, and we'll probably see a few of them, the ones who aren't killed crossing the streets. I am not a huge fan of feeding wild animals. It is creating an unnatural environment that hurts them in the end. You will al;so find that you end up with a lot more undesirable critters like rats. Knock on plastic, we so far haven't even seen a mouse on the property. My guess is that it has something to do with all the the predator birds in the area, including hawks*, owls, crows, et cetera. You always see them swooping down on nearby fields, and taking off with something juicy in their beaks. I'm sure the foxes and maybe the possums and raccoons also help keep down the rodent population. * We have one for sure and possibly two nests of cooper's hawks in the woods behind the back yard. Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. Doesn't matter if you are around a state park or not. Feral cats and cats that act like feral cats are a huge concern. |
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A thousand dollars for food per month? WOW!!
On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:12:00 -0400, Hairy Kraut sent
the following message In article , says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:23:53 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 11:46:19 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:49:43 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:10:53 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:29:33 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 11:54:28 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 13:56:55 -0400, wrote: John H wrote: Note the fine print: "Giant Gas Rewards points will expire 30 days from date of issuance." So, all Harry has to do is spend $1000 at Giant in 30 days, and within the same 30 days he can save $1 per gallon on gas. So, in order to get a $1.00 per gallon discount, you must spend $1000 to earn 1000 points. Gee, what a math whiz... Just to add to the fun: Every week, I spend the following at Giant on our indoor pets: Petfood $ 30 Clean Litter $ 52 That's $82 a week x 4 weeks = $328. That's 328 of 1000 points. How many cats do you have? I'm guessing he has two? I spend about 1/2 that on food. I buy the litter in bulk and it lasts forever. I was just curious. I have a 100 pound dog and he only eats about $15 a month in food, plus whatever he gets from our meat scraps. I spend more on dog treats. Every good deed gets a "cookie". The up side to that is he is getting a lot more civilized. Not bad for a "3 time loser" at the pound. You must buy the kibble in bulk? He seems to do best on Costco "healthy weight" and that is about $18 a 40# bag. I have tried several other brands, including some real "foo foo" stuff the vet is pushing. I watch the intake and output to decide how he is doing. The ingredient list is pretty good too, I posted it here a while ago. My cats won't go near the food the vets sell, especially the Hill's Prescription Diet, wet or dry. Our outdoor friends, the foxes, raccoons, possums, et cetera, all go for Purina Dog Chow, so we buy a couple of big bags of it for them each month. We also give them leftovers. A stand of forest a few miles away was just clearcut by a homebuilder/developer. That means a lot more critters are now homeless, and we'll probably see a few of them, the ones who aren't killed crossing the streets. I am not a huge fan of feeding wild animals. It is creating an unnatural environment that hurts them in the end. You will al;so find that you end up with a lot more undesirable critters like rats. Knock on plastic, we so far haven't even seen a mouse on the property. My guess is that it has something to do with all the the predator birds in the area, including hawks*, owls, crows, et cetera. You always see them swooping down on nearby fields, and taking off with something juicy in their beaks. I'm sure the foxes and maybe the possums and raccoons also help keep down the rodent population. * We have one for sure and possibly two nests of cooper's hawks in the woods behind the back yard. Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. Doesn't matter if you are around a state park or not. Feral cats and cats that act like feral cats are a huge concern. A coyote or snake will take care of that cat sooner or later if it doesn't become a pavement pancake first. That plume character is an irresponsible pet owner. Maybe Krause will talk some sense to him. |
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A thousand dollars for food per month? WOW!!
In article ,
says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:12:00 -0400, Hairy Kraut sent the following message In article , says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:23:53 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 11:46:19 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:49:43 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:10:53 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 19:29:33 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 11:54:28 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2011 13:56:55 -0400, wrote: John H wrote: Note the fine print: "Giant Gas Rewards points will expire 30 days from date of issuance." So, all Harry has to do is spend $1000 at Giant in 30 days, and within the same 30 days he can save $1 per gallon on gas. So, in order to get a $1.00 per gallon discount, you must spend $1000 to earn 1000 points. Gee, what a math whiz... Just to add to the fun: Every week, I spend the following at Giant on our indoor pets: Petfood $ 30 Clean Litter $ 52 That's $82 a week x 4 weeks = $328. That's 328 of 1000 points. How many cats do you have? I'm guessing he has two? I spend about 1/2 that on food. I buy the litter in bulk and it lasts forever. I was just curious. I have a 100 pound dog and he only eats about $15 a month in food, plus whatever he gets from our meat scraps. I spend more on dog treats. Every good deed gets a "cookie". The up side to that is he is getting a lot more civilized. Not bad for a "3 time loser" at the pound. You must buy the kibble in bulk? He seems to do best on Costco "healthy weight" and that is about $18 a 40# bag. I have tried several other brands, including some real "foo foo" stuff the vet is pushing. I watch the intake and output to decide how he is doing. The ingredient list is pretty good too, I posted it here a while ago. My cats won't go near the food the vets sell, especially the Hill's Prescription Diet, wet or dry. Our outdoor friends, the foxes, raccoons, possums, et cetera, all go for Purina Dog Chow, so we buy a couple of big bags of it for them each month. We also give them leftovers. A stand of forest a few miles away was just clearcut by a homebuilder/developer. That means a lot more critters are now homeless, and we'll probably see a few of them, the ones who aren't killed crossing the streets. I am not a huge fan of feeding wild animals. It is creating an unnatural environment that hurts them in the end. You will al;so find that you end up with a lot more undesirable critters like rats. Knock on plastic, we so far haven't even seen a mouse on the property. My guess is that it has something to do with all the the predator birds in the area, including hawks*, owls, crows, et cetera. You always see them swooping down on nearby fields, and taking off with something juicy in their beaks. I'm sure the foxes and maybe the possums and raccoons also help keep down the rodent population. * We have one for sure and possibly two nests of cooper's hawks in the woods behind the back yard. Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. Doesn't matter if you are around a state park or not. Feral cats and cats that act like feral cats are a huge concern. A coyote or snake will take care of that cat sooner or later if it doesn't become a pavement pancake first. That plume character is an irresponsible pet owner. Maybe Krause will talk some sense to him. Harry isn't any more responsible, hell, he thinks it's just dandy to feed human leftovers to wild animals! |
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 16:28:55 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:35 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. They are certainly "exotics" to anyone who studies wildlife. The animals on this continent did not evolve to deal with them. They were introduced by Europeans. They really do not have any natural enemies here although a gator will take one if he sees one and a bobcat will run one off it is in his territory but that will probably not be a fight to the death. For most cat owners, your biggest fear is probably another exotic, the pit bull. (or some other big hunting dog) Auggie Doggie used to chase cats away bit he never really attacked one. I remember one day we had a cat in the yard and Auggie started after him. The cat turned and put up his best threat display. Auggie ran right over him and they ended up in a pile. They rolled around in the dust for a few seconds until they both got their composure back. The cat took off and Auggie chased him until they got off the property, then Auggie came back, pretty happy with himself. Birds don't have natural predators??? My cat has no problem with most dogs. They usually back off, get damaged, or she climbs a tree. The last thing a dog really wants to do is get a face full of claws... all four pads. |
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A thousand dollars for food per month? WOW!!
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says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:35 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. They are certainly "exotics" to anyone who studies wildlife. The animals on this continent did not evolve to deal with them. They were introduced by Europeans. They really do not have any natural enemies here although a gator will take one if he sees one and a bobcat will run one off it is in his territory but that will probably not be a fight to the death. For most cat owners, your biggest fear is probably another exotic, the pit bull. (or some other big hunting dog) Auggie Doggie used to chase cats away bit he never really attacked one. I remember one day we had a cat in the yard and Auggie started after him. The cat turned and put up his best threat display. Auggie ran right over him and they ended up in a pile. They rolled around in the dust for a few seconds until they both got their composure back. The cat took off and Auggie chased him until they got off the property, then Auggie came back, pretty happy with himself. Ha, similar but funnier... Our old Pitbull cross took off out the back door after a cat that was probably 50 yards down the back yard. The "cross" in her was greyhound, she was a veeeeery fast dog, about 50 pounds. As she closed on the cat, who had not seen her yet, there was a noise way down in the park behind the house. The cat stopped in the middle of the yard and looked toward the sound. Now kitty was standing broadside with head turned completely away and never ever saw the dog who hit kitty full speed and they rolled into a ball, got up and Rudy chased kitty off the property. I never laughed so hard in my life. Well, maybe once... The very first time I heard of the concept of "Cow Tipping" but that's another story.. And yes for you snopes guys, I know cow tipping is a myth... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:35 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. They are certainly "exotics" to anyone who studies wildlife. The animals on this continent did not evolve to deal with them. They were introduced by Europeans. They really do not have any natural enemies here although a gator will take one if he sees one and a bobcat will run one off it is in his territory but that will probably not be a fight to the death. For most cat owners, your biggest fear is probably another exotic, the pit bull. (or some other big hunting dog) Auggie Doggie used to chase cats away bit he never really attacked one. I remember one day we had a cat in the yard and Auggie started after him. The cat turned and put up his best threat display. Auggie ran right over him and they ended up in a pile. They rolled around in the dust for a few seconds until they both got their composure back. The cat took off and Auggie chased him until they got off the property, then Auggie came back, pretty happy with himself. Ha, similar but funnier... Our old Pitbull cross took off out the back door after a cat that was probably 50 yards down the back yard. The "cross" in her was greyhound, she was a veeeeery fast dog, about 50 pounds. As she closed on the cat, who had not seen her yet, there was a noise way down in the park behind the house. The cat stopped in the middle of the yard and looked toward the sound. Now kitty was standing broadside with head turned completely away and never ever saw the dog who hit kitty full speed and they rolled into a ball, got up and Rudy chased kitty off the property. I never laughed so hard in my life. Well, maybe once... The very first time I heard of the concept of "Cow Tipping" but that's another story.. And yes for you snopes guys, I know cow tipping is a myth... Too bad someone didn't shoot your ill-mannered dog or its equally ill-mannered owner. |
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On Wed, 11 May 2011 06:28:00 -0400, Harryk
sent the following message I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:35 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 14:25:55 -0400, wrote: Mine is a mouser for sure... also gets the occasional snake, yuk, and more than it's share of birds (bummer, but what can you do). Keep the cat in the house. I have no problem with people enjoying their pets but when they become exotic predators they become a concern. The only small animals that can compete with cats are rats and mice. They can kill everything else but these rodents can reproduce faster than a cat can eat them. You end up with nothing but rats and mice in the ecosystem. That is why the DEP kills cats in the parks around here. They don't talk about it much tho. The also do not talk about the wild hogs they kill. It's a mostly outdoor cat. I'm really not concerned about whatever birds it can hunt down. I wouldn't call a cat an "exotic" predator. Cats have been around a long time. I'm nowhere near a state park. They are certainly "exotics" to anyone who studies wildlife. The animals on this continent did not evolve to deal with them. They were introduced by Europeans. They really do not have any natural enemies here although a gator will take one if he sees one and a bobcat will run one off it is in his territory but that will probably not be a fight to the death. For most cat owners, your biggest fear is probably another exotic, the pit bull. (or some other big hunting dog) Auggie Doggie used to chase cats away bit he never really attacked one. I remember one day we had a cat in the yard and Auggie started after him. The cat turned and put up his best threat display. Auggie ran right over him and they ended up in a pile. They rolled around in the dust for a few seconds until they both got their composure back. The cat took off and Auggie chased him until they got off the property, then Auggie came back, pretty happy with himself. Ha, similar but funnier... Our old Pitbull cross took off out the back door after a cat that was probably 50 yards down the back yard. The "cross" in her was greyhound, she was a veeeeery fast dog, about 50 pounds. As she closed on the cat, who had not seen her yet, there was a noise way down in the park behind the house. The cat stopped in the middle of the yard and looked toward the sound. Now kitty was standing broadside with head turned completely away and never ever saw the dog who hit kitty full speed and they rolled into a ball, got up and Rudy chased kitty off the property. I never laughed so hard in my life. Well, maybe once... The very first time I heard of the concept of "Cow Tipping" but that's another story.. And yes for you snopes guys, I know cow tipping is a myth... Too bad someone didn't shoot your ill-mannered dog or its equally ill-mannered owner. Fortunate for him , you or one of your triggrr happy cronies was not in attendance. Dogs chase cats. It's what they do. |
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