On 02/05/2011 6:33 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 4:24 PM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 5/2/2011 5:03 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 2:04 PM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 5/2/2011 3:57 PM, Hairy Kraut wrote:
In articleuPudnYiv54xwlCLQnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 1:31 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:

May 2, 2011
2012 Election Cancelled
Obama Buoyed by 100 Percent Approval Rating

Wait until people learn how long it took Obama to authorize it.
Some
stuff I have read indicates Obama knew since August last year.

Oh, please. It was obviously a deliberate plan, executed
deliberately.

Go **** yourself.

Go f- yourself fleabagger.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publ...terrorism.html







In above search for August.

Who cares? The only thing you are trying to do is cheapen this
bit of
success that belongs to the u.s. military, the cia, and obama. Oh,
and
your quoted piece does not state Obama knew Osama was there last
August.

Once again, go **** yourself.

But you have such disdain for the U.S. military, Harry, I'd think
you'd
be the first to start yelling that it was money not well spent. You
did
say how stupid it was when Bush was president.
At least under Bush, Saddam got the benefit of a fair trial.

Osama had over 300 indictments and warrants from various countries.

Gadafi, different story. That one is a vindictive baby killing botch
job. But wait, we can get Osama to make government plotted
assassinations look good.

BTW, I agree with going for Osama. But not Kadafi. In Kadafi's case it
is to shut him up, gain control of a central bank and oil. If they wnt
to assassinate him, present the evidence and not the deception.

I'm glad the the Osama case is closed. I hope it was really him and not
a stunt double. Only the fishes know for sure. But, what strikes me
funny, is the same bleeding heart civil rights progressive assholes who
cried out for the rights of those poor souls detained in Gitmo cheered
at the news that Osama was murdered.

The real reason his body was dumped is there probably wasn't much left.
A real mess actually. Say 20 hollow point explosive rounds from
munitions only the military can get. Who knows, they might have picked
him up in pieces.

The reports are he was shot twice.
Do you ever post any "news" that is fact-based?


Wow good shots. Did it say what with? Standard M16 with standard
rounds I doubt it. Want the loads to be armor piercing at least. Maybe
round robin loaded, one armor piercing, one explosive then a hollow
point round. 3 shoots and something happens.

Saves taxpayers his keep.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Tue, 03 May 2011 00:52:15 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 02 May 2011 21:22:30 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2011 19:32:08 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


So, you're claiming that Obama didn't take a huge risk, on the order
of Carter's risk to free the hostages?

Actually I give Obama high marks for doing this right so it wasn't the
cluster**** Carter had at desert 1.

You're blaming Carter for the desert operation? He tried but it didn't
work.

He used the right helicopters and the people who went on the mission
were well trained. The story is they actually built a full sized mock
up and practiced this until they had it down cold

I believe things have changed a bit since Carter. Carter did what he
could.

If I was a terrorist I might laugh at 150,000 regular GIs but 2 dozen
SEALs would scare the **** out of me.

What risk did Bush take?

Invading Iraq?

You mean lying and expecting not to get caught.

He was on vacation for 1/3 of his presidency.

Does any president ever really get a vacation? The presidency follows
them wherever they go or I would really be worried about them walking
around natural disaster sites in Fumbuck kicking rubble.

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.

In article ,
says...

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.

Before 9/11 GWB spent most of his time goofing off at his ranch.
He had Congress cut taxes and keep spending to start the destruction of
the American economy.
His polled popularity was sinking fast as people became aware he was an
empty suit.
Then came 9/11.
9/11 made GWB.
I turned around and supported him. No choice as an American.
Then he invaded Iraq and I flip-flopped again.

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenuudnfUdG57ioCLQnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 5/2/2011 5:03 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 2:04 PM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 5/2/2011 3:57 PM, Hairy Kraut wrote:
In articleuPudnYiv54xwlCLQnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 1:31 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
May 2, 2011
2012 Election Cancelled
Obama Buoyed by 100 Percent Approval Rating
Wait until people learn how long it took Obama to authorize it. Some
stuff I have read indicates Obama knew since August last year.
Oh, please. It was obviously a deliberate plan, executed
deliberately.

Go **** yourself.
Go f- yourself fleabagger.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publ...terrorism.html




In above search for August.

Who cares? The only thing you are trying to do is cheapen this bit of
success that belongs to the u.s. military, the cia, and obama. Oh, and
your quoted piece does not state Obama knew Osama was there last
August.

Once again, go **** yourself.
But you have such disdain for the U.S. military, Harry, I'd think you'd
be the first to start yelling that it was money not well spent. You did
say how stupid it was when Bush was president.
At least under Bush, Saddam got the benefit of a fair trial.
Osama had over 300 indictments and warrants from various countries.

Gadafi, different story. That one is a vindictive baby killing botch
job. But wait, we can get Osama to make government plotted
assassinations look good.

BTW, I agree with going for Osama. But not Kadafi. In Kadafi's case it
is to shut him up, gain control of a central bank and oil. If they wnt
to assassinate him, present the evidence and not the deception.

I'm glad the the Osama case is closed. I hope it was really him and not
a stunt double. Only the fishes know for sure. But, what strikes me
funny, is the same bleeding heart civil rights progressive assholes who
cried out for the rights of those poor souls detained in Gitmo cheered
at the news that Osama was murdered.
Reports are he was not holding a weapon when he was shot in the head
either. Some of the pictures however were definately photoshopped.. One
has to wonder...

A. What reports, from who?

B. How would a cipher like you know what was and wasn't photoshopped?

I see you have a new word for the week... "cipher". I do wonder if these
words of the week come from the DNC talking points, or if you are
looking over your shrinks shoulder again and reading the notes...


Neither. The word comes from my extensive vocabulary, which I have built
up over the years by reading and by consulting reference books when a
word or meaning was unknown or unclear.

I suppose I could have spent that time engaged in kiddie motorbike
racing, but...there's no future in that.

You ought to find a new hobby on the internet. Engaging in badinage in
usenet clearly is beyond your meager abilities.

On 5/2/2011 7:25 PM, Harryk wrote:

B. How would a cipher like you know what was and wasn't photoshopped?

Remember that pimped out photo of your granddaughter that you posted?
You denied that it had been edited, but then it was proven that it had
been?

You da expert, man.

Isn't it time for Paul@byc to make an appearance?

"Harryk" wrote in message
...

Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/05/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:

May 2, 2011
2012 Election Cancelled
Obama Buoyed by 100 Percent Approval Rating

Wait until people learn how long it took Obama to authorize it. Some
stuff I have read indicates Obama knew since August last year.

Oh, please. It was obviously a deliberate plan, executed deliberately.

Go **** yourself.

***************

Yeah... the three stooges (GeorgieBoy , Dickie and Rummy) couldn't do
anything for 7 years.
Looks like Obama really can do it'

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 3 May 2011 05:27:09 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


When you have your intelligence resources devoted to assembling shreds
of "evidence" to "prove" the existence of Iraq WMD, there's not much
left over to hunt for Bin Laden.
Bush made himself clear in his words above.
Iraq was always more important to him than Bin Laden.
He shut down the CIA unit hunting for Obama in 2005.
That's when Bin Laden had his house built. 2005.
Obama was saying back in 2007 that he would send troops into Pakistan to
get Bin Laden or any other high level target.

The only problem with that is the path to this house came from 2007
and some information they got from KSM in Gitmo. Maybe we just said we
were not "looking for OBL" to get him to relax and settle in
somewhere.

There's no "problem" with the facts I stated.
Anything about KSM and where the "path" started is talking head
speculation.
I already hear the Bush fans using this to justify torture.
And those on the other side denying it.
Here's what we know: Obama got Bin Laden. And GWB didn't.

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 3 May 2011 05:27:09 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


When you have your intelligence resources devoted to assembling shreds
of "evidence" to "prove" the existence of Iraq WMD, there's not much
left over to hunt for Bin Laden.
Bush made himself clear in his words above.
Iraq was always more important to him than Bin Laden.
He shut down the CIA unit hunting for Obama in 2005.
That's when Bin Laden had his house built. 2005.
Obama was saying back in 2007 that he would send troops into Pakistan to
get Bin Laden or any other high level target.

The only problem with that is the path to this house came from 2007
and some information they got from KSM in Gitmo. Maybe we just said we
were not "looking for OBL" to get him to relax and settle in
somewhere.

There's no "problem" with the facts I stated.
Anything about KSM and where the "path" started is talking head
speculation.
I already hear the Bush fans using this to justify torture.
And those on the other side denying it.
Here's what we know: Obama got Bin Laden. And GWB didn't.

That is so simplistic... as if it wasn't a ten year hunt... The
intelligence agencies got Bin Laden. All either President Bush or
President Obama did was say, "go get 'em"...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On Tue, 3 May 2011 05:27:08 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.

Before 9/11 GWB spent most of his time goofing off at his ranch.
He had Congress cut taxes and keep spending to start the destruction of
the American economy.
His polled popularity was sinking fast as people became aware he was an
empty suit.
Then came 9/11.
9/11 made GWB.
I turned around and supported him. No choice as an American.
Then he invaded Iraq and I flip-flopped again.



Yes, I did also. He had something like 90% approval ratings. Then, he
squandered everything, including support abroad.

On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:06:50 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 02 May 2011 23:15:33 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 03 May 2011 00:52:15 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 02 May 2011 21:22:30 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2011 19:32:08 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


So, you're claiming that Obama didn't take a huge risk, on the order
of Carter's risk to free the hostages?

Actually I give Obama high marks for doing this right so it wasn't the
cluster**** Carter had at desert 1.

You're blaming Carter for the desert operation? He tried but it didn't
work.

If Obama did this, Carter did that one. You can't have it both ways.

Huh? The both did both. Obama made a decisive decision, and so did
Carter. What honest decision did Bush make? None that I can think of.


He used the right helicopters and the people who went on the mission
were well trained. The story is they actually built a full sized mock
up and practiced this until they had it down cold

I believe things have changed a bit since Carter. Carter did what he
could.

He could have use a ground attack helicopter with air filters on the
engine intakes instead of the mine sweeping Sea Stallions they used.

He? So Carter was the one who decided what type of helicopter was
used? On what planet?


If I was a terrorist I might laugh at 150,000 regular GIs but 2 dozen
SEALs would scare the **** out of me.

What risk did Bush take?

Invading Iraq?

You mean lying and expecting not to get caught.

I think he just believed what he was told. The intel came from the
Brits and we know now it was bogus. Why not blame them a little. Again
you want this both ways. On one hand you think he was totally out of
touch and didn't know anything and then you have him being some kind
of evil genius

He and/or Cheney fabricated the intelligence to suit his desire. You
don't have to be particularly smart to foster lies.

He was on vacation for 1/3 of his presidency.

Does any president ever really get a vacation? The presidency follows
them wherever they go or I would really be worried about them walking
around natural disaster sites in Fumbuck kicking rubble.

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.

It is just clear you do not understand how the president, any
president, travels. The White House comes with them.

It's clear that you're going to defend Bush no matter what. The "White
House" doesn't "come with them." They can do a bunch of stuff, but
it's not like you're on sight, talking to and meeting with all the
people.