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On Tue, 03 May 2011 00:52:15 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 02 May 2011 21:22:30 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2011 19:32:08 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

So, you're claiming that Obama didn't take a huge risk, on the order
of Carter's risk to free the hostages?

Actually I give Obama high marks for doing this right so it wasn't the
cluster**** Carter had at desert 1.

You're blaming Carter for the desert operation? He tried but it didn't
work.

He used the right helicopters and the people who went on the mission
were well trained. The story is they actually built a full sized mock
up and practiced this until they had it down cold

I believe things have changed a bit since Carter. Carter did what he
could.

If I was a terrorist I might laugh at 150,000 regular GIs but 2 dozen
SEALs would scare the **** out of me.

What risk did Bush take?

Invading Iraq?

You mean lying and expecting not to get caught.

He was on vacation for 1/3 of his presidency.

Does any president ever really get a vacation? The presidency follows
them wherever they go or I would really be worried about them walking
around natural disaster sites in Fumbuck kicking rubble.

He was sitting on his ranch enjoying himself. I'm sure he had lots of
interaction with all his policy makers and Congress in DC, at least in
between riding around his ranch and watching TV.

Feel free to defend him, but the fact is that he was AWOL and I'm not
talking about his "service" in the Texas Air National Guard.