On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:39:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/04/2011 4:37 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:19:46 -0600,
wrote:

On 24/04/2011 12:27 PM, wf3h wrote:

Nothing wrong with profits, after all you don't go to work for nothing
do you? So why should my capital go to work unless I make a profit?

profits are not bad. what we have in the US is profits for the few and
risk for the many

Only because a few are investing in USA.

let's see.

in 1997 CDS's were 320 BILLION

10 years later?

SIXTY TWO TRILLION

That happens when a nation runs on a decade of debt. Your point?

uh no it doesnt

it happens when the right wing abandons legitimate regulation of
financial centers under the guise of 'smaller govt' then sits back and
watches the rich bankrupt the economy

it's not a 'nation' doing it

it's a political ideology of right wing laissez faire fundamentalist
capitalism married to a plutocratic theology

AKA the american right


Might want to think about all the inflation that represents.

so you're just spouting more right wing bull****

Funny. Said like a true welfare recipient.

hey like i said if it enables you to sleep at night

funny...SOME economists told us the economy was gonna blow up...based
on evidence

and most dimsissed it

and here you are. repeating the same mistake.

yep. you're right wing


You dont invest in USA, you
just whine. You want the wealth of an investor, but yet will not invest.

Not as much any more, less than 10% actually. Dropped much in 2004,
again in 2006 and 2007. Good thing about money, it moves.

and the investors cost the US economy TEN TRILLION in the last 2 years

So? Buy low, sell high and the denialist Liberals take the fall. If
you think a market is over valued, you sell out.

liberals?

george bush was a liberal? the congress in 2001 and 2003 was liberal?

you're engaging in the 'no true scostman' fallacy. in your right wing
mind, no matter WHAT the evidence says it's the fault of liberals

how do you know this? you dont

what's your evidence? you have none

but you just keep bleating it and hope no one catches you

but i just stepped on your tail

no wonder you're bitching like a firghtened cat


how'd that work out for the US? we doing OK? able to fund a big
military to defend us against the chinese?

Chances are if you went to war with China, you would run out of gas. My
money would be on China. USA can no longer afford war and have an
economy. And with all the fleabagger greed, is HarryK and defumer going
to give up their welfare for war?

i notice you IGNORED the FACT that WALL STREET caused this

you bleat about the FAILURE of the US without knowing it was the fault

of people like you. and continues to be the fault of the right wing


I call them needy greedy slug fleabaggers. To envious and lazy to work
for it, and don't even invest in there own country.

Hey, you don't invest in yourself, you don't invest in your country, you
just whine a lot -- well no wonder your are a loser.

and if this little myth enables you to stop sucking your thumb, then i
have pity on you....go for it

No pity needed, I am not the one stooping with my need and greed for big
government welfare and bailouts.

HAHAHAH welfare bailouts...you are in FAVOR of these for the rich and
avert your eyes from the greed of the rich

THEN you blame the non existent unions

you shriek the US is a communist state and dont even KNOW it has the
4th most compettive economy in the world

you just make up the **** you need to push your right wing delusions

On 25/04/2011 6:11 PM, wf3h wrote:

it's a political ideology of right wing laissez faire fundamentalist
capitalism married to a plutocratic theology

AKA the american right

Are you drunk or shot up on dope?

Might want to think about all the inflation that represents.

so you're just spouting more right wing bull****

Funny. Said like a true welfare recipient.

hey like i said if it enables you to sleep at night

funny...SOME economists told us the economy was gonna blow up...based
on evidence

and most dimsissed it

and here you are. repeating the same mistake.

yep. you're right wing

What mistake? I was in the camp that predicted 2008...made big money on
it too. Your mistakes are not mine I can assure you of that.

You dont invest in USA, you
just whine. You want the wealth of an investor, but yet will not invest.

Not as much any more, less than 10% actually. Dropped much in 2004,
again in 2006 and 2007. Good thing about money, it moves.

and the investors cost the US economy TEN TRILLION in the last 2 years

So? Buy low, sell high and the denialist Liberals take the fall. If
you think a market is over valued, you sell out.

liberals?

Ya, liberals as in liberalism. Liberal debtors, liberal deficits,
liberal spending fools.

george bush was a liberal? the congress in 2001 and 2003 was liberal?

you're engaging in the 'no true scostman' fallacy. in your right wing
mind, no matter WHAT the evidence says it's the fault of liberals

how do you know this? you dont

what's your evidence? you have none

but you just keep bleating it and hope no one catches you

but i just stepped on your tail

no wonder you're bitching like a firghtened cat

You have a nasty case of nonsense run on. Have another drink.

Chances are if you went to war with China, you would run out of gas. My
money would be on China. USA can no longer afford war and have an
economy. And with all the fleabagger greed, is HarryK and defumer going
to give up their welfare for war?

i notice you IGNORED the FACT that WALL STREET caused this

you bleat about the FAILURE of the US without knowing it was the fault

of people like you. and continues to be the fault of the right wing

Wall Street is like a mirror into the economic futures. Nothing more or
less.

No pity needed, I am not the one stooping with my need and greed for big
government welfare and bailouts.

HAHAHAH welfare bailouts...you are in FAVOR of these for the rich and
avert your eyes from the greed of the rich

THEN you blame the non existent unions

you shriek the US is a communist state and dont even KNOW it has the
4th most compettive economy in the world

you just make up the **** you need to push your right wing delusions

Sure beats being a dependent on government like a leach to a horses ass.

If US is so competitive, why is money leaving USA? Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?
Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?

Pretty bad when the Chinese has to prop up the USD to keep a currency
collapse from happening. But even that will not work forever, at some
point Chinese will have to write off the USDs they have. As like toilet
paper, a cheap commodity.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/04/2011 6:11 PM, wf3h wrote:

it's a political ideology of right wing laissez faire fundamentalist
capitalism married to a plutocratic theology

funny...SOME economists told us the economy was gonna blow up...based
on evidence

and most dimsissed it

and here you are. repeating the same mistake.

yep. you're right wing

What mistake? I was in the camp that predicted 2008...made big money on
it too. Your mistakes are not mine I can assure you of that.

no one cares about your reader's digest sewing circle view of the
economy

liberals go with EVIDENCE. the right goes with pickle barrel stories.

and the right continues to **** the US.


You dont invest in USA, you
just whine. You want the wealth of an investor, but yet will not invest.

Not as much any more, less than 10% actually. Dropped much in 2004,
again in 2006 and 2007. Good thing about money, it moves.

and the investors cost the US economy TEN TRILLION in the last 2 years

So? Buy low, sell high and the denialist Liberals take the fall. If
you think a market is over valued, you sell out.

liberals?

Ya, liberals as in liberalism. Liberal debtors, liberal deficits,
liberal spending fools.

uh where??

more reader's digest stories


george bush was a liberal? the congress in 2001 and 2003 was liberal?

you're engaging in the 'no true scostman' fallacy. in your right wing
mind, no matter WHAT the evidence says it's the fault of liberals

how do you know this? you dont

what's your evidence? you have none

but you just keep bleating it and hope no one catches you

but i just stepped on your tail

no wonder you're bitching like a firghtened cat

You have a nasty case of nonsense run on. Have another drink.

take your head out of the pickle barrel

look around. pay attention to the world, right winger. might learn
something


Chances are if you went to war with China, you would run out of gas. My
money would be on China. USA can no longer afford war and have an
economy. And with all the fleabagger greed, is HarryK and defumer going
to give up their welfare for war?

i notice you IGNORED the FACT that WALL STREET caused this

you bleat about the FAILURE of the US without knowing it was the fault

of people like you. and continues to be the fault of the right wing

Wall Street is like a mirror into the economic futures. Nothing more or
less.

bull****.absolute BULL****

wall street INVENTED the financial instruments that ****ED this
economy

THEY invented derivatives. THEY invented collateralized default swaps.
THEY ran them up from

320 BILLION in 97

to SIXTY TWO TRILLION 10 years later

see...THAT is EVIDENCE. that's NOT the little readers digest type of
story you right wingers rely on to shape your world

and yet you say we should sit back and ignore what wall street did


No pity needed, I am not the one stooping with my need and greed for big
government welfare and bailouts.

HAHAHAH welfare bailouts...you are in FAVOR of these for the rich and
avert your eyes from the greed of the rich

THEN you blame the non existent unions

you shriek the US is a communist state and dont even KNOW it has the
4th most compettive economy in the world

you just make up the **** you need to push your right wing delusions

Sure beats being a dependent on government like a leach to a horses ass.

WALL STREET IS DEPENDENT ON GOVT YOU MORON!

the RICH got a bailout from the MIDDLE CLASS

christ do you EVER read the news???


If US is so competitive, why is money leaving USA?

gee. folks are still buying our debt

where else they gonna go? portugal? spain? ireland?



Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?

because the RICH ****ed the economy and threw MILLLIONS out of work

THAT is why there are FORECLOSURES

Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?

more racist hatred of the black guy

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/04/2011 6:11 PM, wf3h wrote:

it's a political ideology of right wing laissez faire fundamentalist
capitalism married to a plutocratic theology

funny...SOME economists told us the economy was gonna blow up...based
on evidence

and most dimsissed it

and here you are. repeating the same mistake.

yep. you're right wing

What mistake? I was in the camp that predicted 2008...made big money on
it too. Your mistakes are not mine I can assure you of that.

no one cares about your reader's digest sewing circle view of the
economy

liberals go with EVIDENCE. the right goes with pickle barrel stories.

and the right continues to **** the US.


You dont invest in USA, you
just whine. You want the wealth of an investor, but yet will not invest.

Not as much any more, less than 10% actually. Dropped much in 2004,
again in 2006 and 2007. Good thing about money, it moves.

and the investors cost the US economy TEN TRILLION in the last 2 years

So? Buy low, sell high and the denialist Liberals take the fall. If
you think a market is over valued, you sell out.

liberals?

Ya, liberals as in liberalism. Liberal debtors, liberal deficits,
liberal spending fools.

uh where??

more reader's digest stories


george bush was a liberal? the congress in 2001 and 2003 was liberal?

you're engaging in the 'no true scostman' fallacy. in your right wing
mind, no matter WHAT the evidence says it's the fault of liberals

how do you know this? you dont

what's your evidence? you have none

but you just keep bleating it and hope no one catches you

but i just stepped on your tail

no wonder you're bitching like a firghtened cat

You have a nasty case of nonsense run on. Have another drink.

take your head out of the pickle barrel

look around. pay attention to the world, right winger. might learn
something


Chances are if you went to war with China, you would run out of gas. My
money would be on China. USA can no longer afford war and have an
economy. And with all the fleabagger greed, is HarryK and defumer going
to give up their welfare for war?

i notice you IGNORED the FACT that WALL STREET caused this

you bleat about the FAILURE of the US without knowing it was the fault

of people like you. and continues to be the fault of the right wing

Wall Street is like a mirror into the economic futures. Nothing more or
less.

bull****.absolute BULL****

wall street INVENTED the financial instruments that ****ED this
economy

THEY invented derivatives. THEY invented collateralized default swaps.
THEY ran them up from

320 BILLION in 97

to SIXTY TWO TRILLION 10 years later

see...THAT is EVIDENCE. that's NOT the little readers digest type of
story you right wingers rely on to shape your world

and yet you say we should sit back and ignore what wall street did


No pity needed, I am not the one stooping with my need and greed for big
government welfare and bailouts.

HAHAHAH welfare bailouts...you are in FAVOR of these for the rich and
avert your eyes from the greed of the rich

THEN you blame the non existent unions

you shriek the US is a communist state and dont even KNOW it has the
4th most compettive economy in the world

you just make up the **** you need to push your right wing delusions

Sure beats being a dependent on government like a leach to a horses ass.

WALL STREET IS DEPENDENT ON GOVT YOU MORON!

the RICH got a bailout from the MIDDLE CLASS

christ do you EVER read the news???


If US is so competitive, why is money leaving USA?

gee. folks are still buying our debt

where else they gonna go? portugal? spain? ireland?



Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?

because the RICH ****ed the economy and threw MILLLIONS out of work

THAT is why there are FORECLOSURES

Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?

more racist hatred of the black guy

There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk wrote:


There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...


Jesus. At least once a day, and usually more than once, you put up a
post that demonstrates without any doubt what an uneducated, unknowing,
unsophisticated, ill-informed little **** you are.

Is there no bottom limit to your stupidity?

Your daughter and any other kiddies at home under 18 should petition
family court for emancipation.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:04:22 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:


There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...


Jesus. At least once a day, and usually more than once, you put up a
post that demonstrates without any doubt what an uneducated, unknowing,
unsophisticated, ill-informed little **** you are.

Is there no bottom limit to your stupidity?

Your daughter and any other kiddies at home under 18 should petition
family court for emancipation.

or to have him committed

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:04:22 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:


There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...


Jesus. At least once a day, and usually more than once, you put up a
post that demonstrates without any doubt what an uneducated, unknowing,
unsophisticated, ill-informed little **** you are.

Is there no bottom limit to your stupidity?

Your daughter and any other kiddies at home under 18 should petition
family court for emancipation.

or to have him committed

Typical elitist progressives... If someone doesn't agree with your
delusional reality, just shut them up... Yeah, we get that.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:53:41 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?

because the RICH ****ed the economy and threw MILLLIONS out of work

THAT is why there are FORECLOSURES

Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?

more racist hatred of the black guy

There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...

really? let's see

1. the housing crisis started in 2007
2. obama became pres in 2008

so only a racist would say obama had ANYTHING to do with it

BUT let's crunch the numbers, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_...from_late_2007

fannie may and freddie mac cost taxpayers 150 BILLION

BUT the total DECREASE in net worth of the US is about TEN TRILLION

so YOUR view accounts for about 2% of the decrease

let's look at another factor, shall we?

wall street derivatives...specifically COLLATERALIZED DEBT OBLIGATIONS

THEY went from

320 BILLION

to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 10 years

sixty two trillion is MORE than the ENTIRE NET WORTH of the united
states. and THAT was cause by WALL STREET GREED.

so when the housing market went south, WALL STREET GREED BLEW UP the
economy. and THAT was caused by RIGHT WING DEREGULATION OF WALL
STREET.

but you're right wng. so you'll continue to lie. it's what you do

wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:53:41 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:53 -0600,
wrote:


Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?
because the RICH ****ed the economy and threw MILLLIONS out of work

THAT is why there are FORECLOSURES

Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?
more racist hatred of the black guy
There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...

really? let's see

1. the housing crisis started in 2007
2. obama became pres in 2008

so only a racist would say obama had ANYTHING to do with it

BUT let's crunch the numbers, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_...from_late_2007

fannie may and freddie mac cost taxpayers 150 BILLION

BUT the total DECREASE in net worth of the US is about TEN TRILLION

so YOUR view accounts for about 2% of the decrease

let's look at another factor, shall we?

wall street derivatives...specifically COLLATERALIZED DEBT OBLIGATIONS

THEY went from

320 BILLION

to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 10 years

sixty two trillion is MORE than the ENTIRE NET WORTH of the united
states. and THAT was cause by WALL STREET GREED.

so when the housing market went south, WALL STREET GREED BLEW UP the
economy. and THAT was caused by RIGHT WING DEREGULATION OF WALL
STREET.

but you're right wng. so you'll continue to lie. it's what you do


Please...the one watt bulb in Ingersoll's head will burn out reading
those numbers.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:53:41 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:50:53 -0600,
wrote:


Why are record
numbers of forclosures occuring? People not paying their bills?
because the RICH ****ed the economy and threw MILLLIONS out of work

THAT is why there are FORECLOSURES

Obamanomics of paying your bills with BS not work'in for ya?
more racist hatred of the black guy
There is foreclosures because Dodd, Kerry, Frank, and Obama crashed the
housing market through fannie and freddie.... Period...

really? let's see

1. the housing crisis started in 2007
2. obama became pres in 2008

so only a racist would say obama had ANYTHING to do with it

BUT let's crunch the numbers, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_...from_late_2007

fannie may and freddie mac cost taxpayers 150 BILLION

BUT the total DECREASE in net worth of the US is about TEN TRILLION

so YOUR view accounts for about 2% of the decrease

let's look at another factor, shall we?

wall street derivatives...specifically COLLATERALIZED DEBT OBLIGATIONS

THEY went from

320 BILLION

to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 10 years

sixty two trillion is MORE than the ENTIRE NET WORTH of the united
states. and THAT was cause by WALL STREET GREED.

so when the housing market went south, WALL STREET GREED BLEW UP the
economy. and THAT was caused by RIGHT WING DEREGULATION OF WALL
STREET.

but you're right wng. so you'll continue to lie. it's what you do


Please...the one watt bulb in Ingersoll's head will burn out reading
those numbers.

Another example of what Tim was talking about. Always an insult.