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Why gas is $5.00/gal
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote: Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql Here's a reasonable explanation why: http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed factors. I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't provide sufficient return on investment." Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company lies. Oil companies are going to be reporting record profits again. Hey, if making gasoline has such a low R.O.I., let's buy the refineries in the name of the taxpayers and produce gasoline at prices that are at breakeven plus a 10% setaside. That'll lower the pump price of gasoline by what, $2.00 a gallon? Even smarter, let's not allow the Repubs in Congress to cut the funds for alternative energy development, as they want to do, in order to continue the payoff to their oil company buddies. It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the world exists for corporations. |
#12
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:58:28 -0400, Lil Abner sent the
following message On 4/22/2011 10:28 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:33:15 -0400, Lil wrote: On 4/22/2011 7:04 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators. The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations. Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money to kill it. Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars on Americans. It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal economies are in a tailspin. Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg SUVs. This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4 wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road. I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a baseball team and gear. I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales of hay with a Prius. i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and 100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end. Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda and or die. There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS. I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go, and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank. Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and infrastructure? They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate hell here for Americans. What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money becomes worth less. There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for 100% inflation. It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free because some fraud central banker like Bernake decides to create more valueless money diluting the money stock did you? Nope, it isn't free. Now you money for nothing types whine because you have to pay more. Well, there is a reason why some of are "rich" and some of you are poor. $400, hell I made triple this on one of my minor positions in oil stocks this week because I don't trust USD stock any more. But you should see my precious metals...like I hit gold! Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt worshiping idiots are broke. So pay up, or walk or swim. Maybe buying a canoe and burn off the brain fat that doesn't think too clearly. People want more for oil as the USD does not buy as much as it used to. What's your problem. Printing worthles fiat is not the direct link to this latest episode. Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall Street on many issues. The rule in DC is who has the most money rules. It doesn't matter if you are Communist or Corporatist. China is Marxist but is a favored capitalist. Wow... two morons arguing with each other about the price of tin foil hats. I don't like bull s-----. I like fools even less. Stick it. plonk Thank you |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400, Harryk
wrote: It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the world exists for corporations. It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into believing that government can do a better job than private industry. Refining is a dirty, capital intensive business. If you believe there is so much filthy lucre waiting to be made, you should form a consortium and go buy or build one. It's a great American tradition and it creates jobs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filthy_Luc_Economics_for_People_Who_Hate_Capita lism |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400, wrote: It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the world exists for corporations. It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into believing that government can do a better job than private industry. I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone? |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400, Harryk
wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400, wrote: It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the world exists for corporations. It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into believing that government can do a better job than private industry. I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone? Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better than no oil. |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400, wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400, wrote: It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the world exists for corporations. It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into believing that government can do a better job than private industry. I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone? Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better than no oil. The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the health insurance companies. :) |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:00:47 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Apr 22, 4:31*pm, Frogwatch wrote: Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason why gas costs anything. *It is a bit like saying the sky is blue because it bluish colored. *However, what Obama actually means is that in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql Here's a reasonable explanation why: http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate it, and they're confused enough already. One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85 limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day. :-) The local Sunoco station cut me off at $75. I'm pretty sure it was the station. That's only happened once before, and the proprietor said it was their policy. |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:00:47 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote: Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql Here's a reasonable explanation why: http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate it, and they're confused enough already. One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85 limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day. :-) The local Sunoco station cut me off at $75. I'm pretty sure it was the station. That's only happened once before, and the proprietor said it was their policy. The only salvation around here is that Giant Food has a promo with Shell Gas...for every $100 you spend at Giant, you get 10 cents off the pump price at Shell, and as far as I can tell, there's no limit to how much of a discount you can accumulate. Last week, I filled up one of our vehicles, got 90 cents off per gallon, and saved about $20. I also got a $50 gas card from Amex for test-driving a new BMW up in Annapolis. Also a Shell promotion. |
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Why gas is $5.00/gal
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Frogwatch wrote: Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql Indeed, we have to be on the alert for "reaql..." Hey, we know you're a bat**** crazy rightie, and you just can't live with the fact that the black guy with the funny name was elected president over your tired-out old fart McCain and his ditzy sidekick. Too bad. Didn't take Harry long to throw up the race card!!! |
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