"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another
cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of
oxygen.

it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


Reply:
You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started
his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why
did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted
all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in
bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented
a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so
shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You
are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must
be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no
real though processes.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another
cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of
oxygen.

it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


Reply:
You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started
his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why
did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted
all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in
bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented
a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so
shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You
are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must
be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no
real though processes.

For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


yeah the right wing is pretty stupid

uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea??

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
. ..

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


yeah the right wing is pretty stupid

uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea??


VETO the ****er!!! Then Congress has to show how bad they are to override
the veto. Bush signed almost all the spending bills he received and those
he should have vetoed he signed with some statement of memorandum. He was
almost as F'ed up as Obama. I am giving the most F'ed award to Obama, as he
came in saying he was going to fix the problems. Got us in to another
couple wars, did not get us out of wars he said he would, and has been a
cheerleader for overspending.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:40:23 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...



yeah the right wing is pretty stupid

uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea??


VETO the ****er!!! Then Congress has to show how bad they are to override
the veto. Bush signed almost all the spending bills he received and those
he should have vetoed he signed with some statement of memorandum. He was
almost as F'ed up as Obama. I am giving the most F'ed award to Obama, as he
came in saying he was going to fix the problems. Got us in to another
couple wars, did not get us out of wars he said he would, and has been a
cheerleader for overspending.

he HAS ended our role in iraq. less than 50K soldiers there...about as
many as in germany.

it took 11 years to end the depression of 29. even obama cant end the
damage the right did to the US in 2 years.

and he's involved us in no wars. sorry

wrote:
On Sun, 01 May 2011 01:17:19 -0400, wrote:

he HAS ended our role in iraq. less than 50K soldiers there...about as
many as in germany.


How many road side bombs do they have in Germany?

Granted we are down to one or two dead GIs in Iraq every month but
that is one or two too many.

What about Afghanistan?

The ironic thing is Iraq will probably be seen as the successful war.
We may actually come out of that one with a functional government.
In 50 years Afghanistan will still be a corrupt collection of war
lords and tribal areas.

Ira may be annexed by Iran. If a Republican is back in the White House,
he might take the proceeds and give them to the contras.

wrote:
On Sun, 01 May 2011 12:11:26 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 01 May 2011 01:17:19 -0400, wrote:

he HAS ended our role in iraq. less than 50K soldiers there...about as
many as in germany.

How many road side bombs do they have in Germany?

Granted we are down to one or two dead GIs in Iraq every month but
that is one or two too many.

What about Afghanistan?

The ironic thing is Iraq will probably be seen as the successful war.
We may actually come out of that one with a functional government.
In 50 years Afghanistan will still be a corrupt collection of war
lords and tribal areas.
Iraq may be annexed by Iran. If a Republican is back in the White House,
he might take the proceeds and give them to the contras.

That might be an issue if they were both Sunni or Shi'a but it would
be a civil war if the Shi'a tried to take over Iraq.

BTW I was wrong about the current death toll in Iraq. It was 9 in
April as of the 28th.
"Combat troops" is a meaningless term when the main cause of death is
the road side bomb.


What? Another civil war?

On Sun, 01 May 2011 12:09:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 May 2011 01:17:19 -0400, wf3h wrote:

he HAS ended our role in iraq. less than 50K soldiers there...about as
many as in germany.


How many road side bombs do they have in Germany?

Granted we are down to one or two dead GIs in Iraq every month but
that is one or two too many.

What about Afghanistan?

afghanistan remains a real threat.


The ironic thing is Iraq will probably be seen as the successful war.
We may actually come out of that one with a functional government.
In 50 years Afghanistan will still be a corrupt collection of war
lords and tribal areas.

yep. i think nation bulidng there is a recipe for losing money. it may
be a case of just keeping a special forces base there and occasionally
running a killing mission against the taliban.

On Mon, 02 May 2011 01:21:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 May 2011 13:08:51 -0400, wf3h wrote:

The ironic thing is Iraq will probably be seen as the successful war.
We may actually come out of that one with a functional government.
In 50 years Afghanistan will still be a corrupt collection of war
lords and tribal areas.

yep. i think nation bulidng there is a recipe for losing money. it may
be a case of just keeping a special forces base there and occasionally
running a killing mission against the taliban.

That was the flawed policy we had in Vietnam and it really never
accomplished much of anything.
It is like stepping on ants. It may make you feel like you are doing
something but it does not do much to cut down on the ant population.

Now that OBL is dead I am not sure how we justify staying there. Are
we going to admit OBL was not really that important to our mission?

Now that OBL is dead, the rest of the organization is in even more
chaos. This isn't the time to cut and run.

On Sun, 01 May 2011 12:09:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 May 2011 01:17:19 -0400, wf3h wrote:

he HAS ended our role in iraq. less than 50K soldiers there...about as
many as in germany.


How many road side bombs do they have in Germany?

Granted we are down to one or two dead GIs in Iraq every month but
that is one or two too many.

What about Afghanistan?

The ironic thing is Iraq will probably be seen as the successful war.
We may actually come out of that one with a functional government.
In 50 years Afghanistan will still be a corrupt collection of war
lords and tribal areas.

According to your nonsense, we should just pack our bags and leave
Germany and all other places tomorrow. A bunch of hooey.

You just can't accept the fact that Obama is doing what he can to
extricate us from Iraq. You can't accept the fact that Obama had to do
something in Afg.