On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another
cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of
oxygen.

it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


Reply:
You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started
his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why
did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted
all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in
bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented
a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so
shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You
are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must
be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no
real though processes.

For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused
by unemployment...a fact the right ignores

AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama
has little control

another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what
obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows

you're a racist

we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with
the coast guard. i saw what they did

we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore

and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and
NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out.

we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11
years

the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the
right doesnt give a **** about america

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending
the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of
oxygen.


Why don't you talk to Trump. Maybe he can look into Obama's high
school transcripts. You're a cliche in racism and ignorance.


I want to know where Obama attended pre-school. I love the fact that
Trump is doing so well with rank-and-file Republicans. It tells you how
ignorant and vacuous they are. Palin, Bachman, Cantor, Trump - those
GOP'ers sure go for the lunatic fringe candidates.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the
cuts, not just the $250k people).

gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component.

The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T
Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea.
You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting
spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money

gee. i notice the RIGHT was doing this before the LEFT did. AND the
GOP has had congress now for4 months


and hasnt done ****. hasnt cut a dollar. not one. so your statement is
a meanigless cliche

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


yeah the right wing is pretty stupid

uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea??

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:50:11 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:40:03 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:


it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the
cuts, not just the $250k people).
The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T
Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea.
You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting
spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money and monetize the
debt through "quantitative easing" (a polite term for inflating your
way out of the problem). Let's see how the bond market deals with
that.

And, we don't have to solve the "whole" nut in one action. Keep at it.
You seem to think in the very short term when it suits you.

You are not even willing to start fixing this. If we don't attack the
deficit in some meaningful way we will never get a handle on the debt.
If you repealed the whole Bush tax cut it is barely a decent start on
the deficit,

Now you're going to just lie? I clearly outlined a way to start.
Repeal tax breaks for those over $250K, ding corps that ship jobs
overseas, make them pay their fair share in taxes, end subsidies, and
spend not one additional cent on the military.

When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

Good suggestion. Please put down the shovel.

Let me say this again slowly. a half of a percent hike in the interest
we pay on the debt would eat all of repealing that Bush tax cut on the
250K+ people.

What does that have to do with anything... so what. Interest rates
change. How much would a 1/2% decrease in interest on the debt change
our financials? So what.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:55:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:54:47 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the
cuts, not just the $250k people).

gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component.


Then you are wrong Bob. The tax cut on the $250k+ people is $700
billion over 10 years. The people less than $250k would pick up an
additional $3 trillion over 10 years. The whole nut was $3.7T over 10
years.

The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T
Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea.
You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting
spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money

gee. i notice the RIGHT was doing this before the LEFT did. AND the
GOP has had congress now for4 months
and hasnt done ****. hasnt cut a dollar. not one. so your statement is
a meanigless cliche

You have never heard me say Bush's economic policies or his wars were
anything but insanity so that one won't work here.
I agree the current congress is just as corrupt as the last 8

You forgot to add that it's Obama's fault.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:52:58 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another
cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of
oxygen.

it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


Reply:
You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started
his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why
did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted
all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in
bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented
a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so
shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You
are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must
be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no
real though processes.

For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


So when Bush was in office HE spent the money but now when Obama is in
office it is congress spending the money.

It is stupid statements like this that show how mindlessly partisan
you are.

Screw you. Bush pushed us into a war we didn't need nor could afford.
He was the one who pushed tax cuts when none were needed.

Sounds to me you're the partisan, stupid one.

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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
. ..

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
The deficits are being driven up by overspending

the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY
are the largest components of the deficit

your cliche is mindless babbling

REPLY:
Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché.

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



We as a
country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did
Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax
collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is
all
Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another
cliché,
forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste
of
oxygen.

it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


Reply:
You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have
started
his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why
did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted
all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in
bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not
implemented
a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so
shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem.
You
are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must
be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have
no
real though processes.

For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


So when Bush was in office HE spent the money but now when Obama is in
office it is congress spending the money.

It is stupid statements like this that show how mindlessly partisan
you are.


Reply:
Can we hear an AMEN. Obama could start vetoing spending bills. He can not
instigate spending, Bush seems to have been able to, but Obama could veto
spending. Also he could get his party affiliations in Congress to institute
more controls on the TOOBIGTOFAIL. And implore Congress to reinstitute
Glass-Steagall or the equivalent.

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
. ..

really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont
let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best
thing that's ever happened to the US.

well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who
thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its
Congress' job.

You are not part of the problem... you are the problem.


yeah the right wing is pretty stupid

uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea??


VETO the ****er!!! Then Congress has to show how bad they are to override
the veto. Bush signed almost all the spending bills he received and those
he should have vetoed he signed with some statement of memorandum. He was
almost as F'ed up as Obama. I am giving the most F'ed award to Obama, as he
came in saying he was going to fix the problems. Got us in to another
couple wars, did not get us out of wars he said he would, and has been a
cheerleader for overspending.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:55:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:54:47 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


well, there's always this:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1

aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit

that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it?

you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean
anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right?



it's bush's fault because

1. he cut taxes especially on the rich

2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare

3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq

4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy

and yet the right still blames

the black guy


The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the
cuts, not just the $250k people).

gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component.


Then you are wrong Bob. The tax cut on the $250k+ people is $700
billion over 10 years. The people less than $250k would pick up an
additional $3 trillion over 10 years. The whole nut was $3.7T over 10
years.

WHOA sports fans. the tax cuts included the middle class. the TOTAL
tax cuts amount to over 3.7 TRILLION and THAT is the largest component
of the deficit

AND 700 billion is nothing to sneeze at. the RICH CAUSED this problem
and got a bailout. it's time they paid for the damage they've caused.
why are THEY getting a free ride? why is the right so SOCIALIST??

i am NOT a socialist. the right is. i am NOT in favor of govt bailouts
for the rich. the right its. i am NOT in favor of TAX subsidiies for
the rich. the right is.

the RIGHT is SOCIALIST.

we need and END TO SOCIALISM. we need for the rich to start paying for
the damage they caused