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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. |
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On 3/28/2011 2:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. How many lines have you done already today, dear? " we will see" is a perfectly legitimate response. You are implying that Greg should know how this new bill is going to play out. Not everyone is the genius you are. Or maybe it's just your childlike naivete that makes you so sure of yourself. |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:20:14 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. Why the discrimination against older teachers? Are you claiming that only the young ones are capable of teaching well? |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:56:37 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:13:35 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:20:14 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. Why the discrimination against older teachers? Are you claiming that only the young ones are capable of teaching well? The problem is, you can't get rid of a teacher who is not performing so they keep moving up through the system, sucking up money you could be using to attract new teachers. The problem is that this is intellectually dishonest. Sorry. I know that's harsh. This is a tiny percentage of the problem. |
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On 3/29/2011 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:56:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:13:35 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:20:14 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. Why the discrimination against older teachers? Are you claiming that only the young ones are capable of teaching well? The problem is, you can't get rid of a teacher who is not performing so they keep moving up through the system, sucking up money you could be using to attract new teachers. The problem is that this is intellectually dishonest. Sorry. I know that's harsh. This is a tiny percentage of the problem. Can you quantify "tiny percentage". Why is it intellectually dishonest? Because you say so? Ya right. |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:23:12 -0400, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 3/29/2011 9:08 PM, wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:56:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:13:35 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:20:14 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. Why the discrimination against older teachers? Are you claiming that only the young ones are capable of teaching well? The problem is, you can't get rid of a teacher who is not performing so they keep moving up through the system, sucking up money you could be using to attract new teachers. The problem is that this is intellectually dishonest. Sorry. I know that's harsh. This is a tiny percentage of the problem. Can you quantify "tiny percentage". Why is it intellectually dishonest? Because you say so? Ya right. And she's obviously never been a teacher in a system with union involvement. |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. A fact based upon your opinion, or the opinions of those who are anti-union? |
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says... wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:02:00 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:29:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:12:34 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:12:26 -0400, wrote: I enjoy bantering with Plume. The naivete of youth is always refreshing. Gee I didn't realize senility was considered an advantage! LOL I am not the one who has trouble remembering what we were talking about ;-) What were we talking about? Oh wait... Don't ask me, I am senile, now where did I leave my teeth? ;-) It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the most, regardless of performance. Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does. School teachers. Be sure to let us know when a system is devised that actually is capable of judging teachers on merit. It sure as hell isn't the standardized testing bull****. They don't want to see any merit based pay. This "testing" thing is just a red herring. The unions are not opposed to merit pay that is determined by fair testing on the basis of merit. We will see. Scott just signed the bill yesterday that will do that. So far the school union seems pretty much opposed. You tend to end up with a comment like that... "we'll see." Basically, that means you don't know and just guessing. The only thing we "will see" is whether paying younger teachers who perform better actually raises achievement overall. The adverse reaction of the union is a fact. A fact based upon your opinion, or the opinions of those who are anti-union? A fact is a fact, idiot. |
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