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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:20:15 -0500, BAR wrote:

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:31:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:23*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:02:13 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:43:51 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Especially when you do it by remote control and there are no TV crews
around to show it live on the 6 o'clock news. * :-)



It would still get to the media Wayne. Seems like that stuff does
anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnQp6mLUD_M

The best way to do this would be totally black. Never admit we did
anything. Let the pirates think Allah blew up their boat.
There is no reason they ever have to see the drone that tracked them
or the drone that fired the Hellfire missile

There are too many people involved.

The first problem is the "No ****, there I was..."

That is an internal problem in the US that should be addressed. Maybe
when that Manning kid gets 20 years in Leavenworth people will start
respecting the security clearances they have.
The "good democrat" president, FDR, would have had Manning shot by now

I am all for making an example of someone and letting everyone know.

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:30:46 -0800, wrote:

I don't think he should be isolated and
perhaps psychologically tortured, which is what seems to be happening

You're right about that. He should be in with a bunch of hardened
criminals like everyone else. There's only one problem: I don't
think he's gone to trial yet, and if he was locked up with hardened
criminals, he'd probably never make it to the court room.

Oops.

I_am_Tosk wrote:
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is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers)
with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with
the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s]
will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of
Egypt.

Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year
old holding a Glock at the gas station?

It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the
gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to
the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there
will be nothing left for court

If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

He could have closed Gitmo, too. Wasn't that his first promise?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:44:26 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

The problem predates the current administration, no reason to
politicize the discussion.

Not trying to politicize anything, Obama is the one who can stop it
"now". When Bush was in, I had the same feeling, in fact I am sure I
noted it here.

The loss of 4 lives, fellow boaters, is a tragic event - no question
about it.

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??


Think he tried the beer at the White House thing yet?

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I_am_Tosk wrote:
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In article933d9a82-a0c4-4a54-9c0f-733d53524607
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...

is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers)
with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with
the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s]
will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of
Egypt.

Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year
old holding a Glock at the gas station?

It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the
gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to
the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there
will be nothing left for court

If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

He could have closed Gitmo, too. Wasn't that his first promise?

You have to know, he has no interest in anything that would bring
stability to that area of the world. Oil needs to go to 200 a barrel so
he can finish collapsing the economy. That's why he has been
orchestrating the union/communist insurrections from the Whitehouse
itself and now paying thugs in Wisconsin, Ohio, and right here in CT.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:49:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:33 -0800, wrote:

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??

For people like this guy, it's one of THE most important things, along
with preventing women from getting proper health care, and fighting
gays over marriage.

That strikes me as another one of your knee jerk irrational posts.
Are there more women not getting proper health care than men? I'd
have guessed that it was probably split about 50/50. And what is the
big issue with gay marriage? For about 5,000 years of recorded
history marriages took place between men and women. Why has that
concept suddenly changed, at least in the minds of some?

VOTES!

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:11:15 -0500, BAR wrote:

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What would you do if a guy wore his child on his chest during a robbery?
Would you just let me go?




Shoot him in the leg, when he falls down put one on his ear.,

Really? Have you ever seen video of a firefight. I would think you would
hit 'em anywhere you can.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:49:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:33 -0800, wrote:

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??

For people like this guy, it's one of THE most important things, along
with preventing women from getting proper health care, and fighting
gays over marriage.

That strikes me as another one of your knee jerk irrational posts.
Are there more women not getting proper health care than men? I'd
have guessed that it was probably split about 50/50. And what is the
big issue with gay marriage? For about 5,000 years of recorded
history marriages took place between men and women. Why has that
concept suddenly changed, at least in the minds of some?

Well Wayne, that does seem to be the top items in the Republican
agenda. It certainly isn't responsible finances and helping those who
need it.

Why are you threatened by gays wanting to marry? Why are you
threatened by organizations like Planned Parenthood?

Why don't you tell us again about how everyone should tow the line
about being OT and not disparaging others, since you're the epitome of
good behavior?

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:11:28 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:49:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:33 -0800, wrote:

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??

For people like this guy, it's one of THE most important things, along
with preventing women from getting proper health care, and fighting
gays over marriage.

That strikes me as another one of your knee jerk irrational posts.
Are there more women not getting proper health care than men? I'd
have guessed that it was probably split about 50/50. And what is the
big issue with gay marriage? For about 5,000 years of recorded
history marriages took place between men and women. Why has that
concept suddenly changed, at least in the minds of some?

VOTES!

Yes. Votes. Most people in this country are in favor of equal rights
for gays and are pro choice.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:54:51 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:30:46 -0800, wrote:

I don't think he should be isolated and
perhaps psychologically tortured, which is what seems to be happening

You're right about that. He should be in with a bunch of hardened
criminals like everyone else. There's only one problem: I don't
think he's gone to trial yet, and if he was locked up with hardened
criminals, he'd probably never make it to the court room.

It's a military prison is it not? You claiming that all those patriots
in such a place would try and kill him? Do you really believe that
he's got to be confined 23.5 hours per day and have the lights left on
24/7 in order for him to be safe?