On Feb 23, 11:23*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

Most of the pirates around here are running marinas and boat yards.

West Marine?

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:44:26 -0500, I_am_Tosk
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If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

The problem predates the current administration, no reason to
politicize the discussion.

Not trying to politicize anything, Obama is the one who can stop it
"now". When Bush was in, I had the same feeling, in fact I am sure I
noted it here.

The loss of 4 lives, fellow boaters, is a tragic event - no question
about it.

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??

Any shipping irregularities in that area are a national security
concern.

On Feb 23, 11:23*pm, Wayne.B wrote:


Especially when you do it by remote control and there are no TV crews
around to show it live on the 6 o'clock news. * :-)


The media has a way of getting the tapes, Wayne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnQp6mLUD_M

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:43:51 -0800 (PST), Tim
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is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers)
with them as innocent human shields. Shag a couple boats loaded with
the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s]
will hear about it and then condemnation will hit like the swarms of
Egypt.


That is why I like Plume's idea of drones. We seem to think it is OK
to kill a terrorist and everyone else in the building.

Would you rather our soldiers just sit there and take fire?

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:27:14 -0500, Wayne.B
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It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the
gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to
the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there
will be nothing left for court

Didn't it happen in the Indian Ocean, thousands of square miles?
That's my understanding. There are hundreds if not thousands of
fishing boats out there, all looking a lot alike.

I think we have theater surveillance capability sufficient to plot and
track a lot of vessels. Once the operators get a feel for watching
them I bet they can profile out the mother ships pretty quick and
spend most of the effort watching them.

It certainly can't be much harder than tracking terrorists in the
wilds of Pakistan. These ships can't really hide in a cave and come
out somewhere else.

Exactly. Give me a few weeks with the tapes and "I" could probably tell
you who is in a fishing pattern, and who is in a "surveillance"
pattern. A few bucks to a few local fisherman, and you would know
exactly where the fishing areas are, as opposed to the "staging" areas
too.

Sorry about the double post to Wayne with the youtube link. i didn't
see that one went though.

On 23/02/2011 9:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:44:26 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

The problem predates the current administration, no reason to
politicize the discussion.

Not trying to politicize anything, Obama is the one who can stop it
"now". When Bush was in, I had the same feeling, in fact I am sure I
noted it here.

The loss of 4 lives, fellow boaters, is a tragic event - no question
about it.

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??


Hey, this is simple target practice. Instead of shooting blanks
somewhere get some live round experience.

Some US warship shooting up skiffs isn't a major offensive.


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no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

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On Feb 23, 9:51*pm, BAR wrote:
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is that they are possible going to bring children (future buccaneers)
with them as innocent human shields. * Shag a couple boats loaded with
the just and the unjust alike and sooner or later the world court[s]
will hear about it and then *condemnation will hit like the swarms of
Egypt.

Is a 14 year old holding an AK-47 on a pirate ship the same as a 14 year
old holding a Glock at the gas station?

No, but a 3 yr old sitting there with his mom on a boarding boat is,
though.

What would you do if a guy wore his child on his chest during a robbery?
Would you just let me go?

Too often the USA brings a knife to a gun fight.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:13:36 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

It doesn't make any sense. We know the DOD monitors every inch of the
gulf, they surely must know which mother ship a skiff came from. As to
the "world courts", if you vaporize the mother ship and skiffs, there
will be nothing left for court

Didn't it happen in the Indian Ocean, thousands of square miles?
That's my understanding. There are hundreds if not thousands of
fishing boats out there, all looking a lot alike.

If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

The problem predates the current administration, no reason to
politicize the discussion.

I would venture to say that piracy is the second oldest profession.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:44:26 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

If Obama wanted to, he could stop this overnight...

The problem predates the current administration, no reason to
politicize the discussion.

Not trying to politicize anything, Obama is the one who can stop it
"now". When Bush was in, I had the same feeling, in fact I am sure I
noted it here.

The loss of 4 lives, fellow boaters, is a tragic event - no question
about it.

If you were president how would you rank it on a scale of national
priorities compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, terrorism, Iran,
the economic crisis, the impending food and energy crisis, etc. ??

It is one of the highest priorities of the US Navy.

"The mission of the Navy is to maintain, train and equip combat-ready
Naval forces capable of winning wars, deterring aggression and
maintaining freedom of the seas."

"The mission of the United States Navy is to protect and defend the
right of the United States and our allies to move freely on the oceans
and to protect our country against her enemies."