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Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:24:11 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Mar 1, 2:55*am, TopBassDog wrote: On Feb 28, 8:21*pm, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:38:27 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:21:07 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:18 -0500, John H wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs to be a relatively slow process. Why? What are they protecting? *The Soviets are gone. It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I don't know the details, but still... We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean war. In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on the next plane. Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink in government talk. If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in much less than 180 days. Sounds like socialism to me.... We call it foreign aid. All of our foreign aid combined is about 1% of the budget or some similarly small number. I guess taxing rich people an extra 4% might cover it. What do you think. Seeing you were born to make ridiculous and inane arguments, do you really care for his well-thought response? i would yell for more popcorn, but I gotta get to work! rec.boats at it's finest or worst. Ya'll call the shots. Thanks for no contribution whatsoever. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:37:28 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article 2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194 , says... We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget. You have to cut something. Let's start with getting the facts right... http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/ Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all those fiscal conservative Republicans. "oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia? Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready to set the example. Because you'd prefer to see Republicans gut this country, right? |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:53:55 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , payer3389 says... On 3/1/11 7:37 AM, BAR wrote: In article2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194 @u14g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says... We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget. You have to cut something. Let's start with getting the facts right... http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/ Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all those fiscal conservative Republicans. "oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia? Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready to set the example. We should begin cutting military spending by 10% each fiscal year until we are at half the level we are at today, and then see what further cuts can be made. Agreed, let's start with bases and programs in Democrat districts. How about we start with cutting your benefits.... |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:24:15 -0500, John H
wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:58:20 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:21 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The buyer still has to come up with a tag and the insurance is tied to that tag. I can't speak for everywhere but the wrong tag on a care around here is a "felony stop". ( get out of the car, lay on the ground, don't make any fast moves) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum but you could be a drug courier or driving a getaway car. This all sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me. Most illegals are going back and forth to work. They avoid doing stupid things and are just regular people trying to get by. Sure, sometimes there are hardened criminals doing dirty deeds. This has nothing to do with most people. Most people just buy insurance and do things by the book. Co-ordination between insurance companies and DMV's have no doubt caused some people to buy insurance when they would have previously gone uninsured. Some of those systems can probably be gamed too. Illegals most often just ride with a legal motorist. But anybody who doesn't care about the law for whatever reason can buy a used car on the street and steal tags. Happens all the time. The smarter ones avoid vanity plates like CUDDLY4U. Just go with something like 154 823L. Cops aren't running tags enough to affect that. But it could happen. The tollway cameras and red light cameras could be advanced to go real time and notify nearby cops of hits on stolen tags and lack of insurance coverage. Matter of time and politics. Some would consider it too "Big Brother." There's already squawking about red-light cameras. I have mixed feelings about it. Might not bother me if I was running the show. Don't know yet, as it hasn't affected me and I don't know enough about it. They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! So, I guess, being as stupid as you are, you think a stolen car has something to do with lack of insurance. Maybe you should search the article for the word "insurance" and get back to us with the result. |
Winning elections is not good enough
i would yell for more popcorn, but I gotta get to work! rec.boats at it's finest or worst. Ya'll call the shots. Thanks for no contribution whatsoever. Leave poor Tim alone, bitch. |
Winning elections is not good enough
I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! So, I guess, being as stupid as you are, you think a stolen car has something to do with lack of insurance. Maybe you should search the article for the word "insurance" and get back to us with the result. This whole conversation seems to be lost on you. Otherwise you wouldn't be making these idiotic, off the wall comments. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:24:15 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:58:20 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:21 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The buyer still has to come up with a tag and the insurance is tied to that tag. I can't speak for everywhere but the wrong tag on a care around here is a "felony stop". ( get out of the car, lay on the ground, don't make any fast moves) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum but you could be a drug courier or driving a getaway car. This all sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me. Most illegals are going back and forth to work. They avoid doing stupid things and are just regular people trying to get by. Sure, sometimes there are hardened criminals doing dirty deeds. This has nothing to do with most people. Most people just buy insurance and do things by the book. Co-ordination between insurance companies and DMV's have no doubt caused some people to buy insurance when they would have previously gone uninsured. Some of those systems can probably be gamed too. Illegals most often just ride with a legal motorist. But anybody who doesn't care about the law for whatever reason can buy a used car on the street and steal tags. Happens all the time. The smarter ones avoid vanity plates like CUDDLY4U. Just go with something like 154 823L. Cops aren't running tags enough to affect that. But it could happen. The tollway cameras and red light cameras could be advanced to go real time and notify nearby cops of hits on stolen tags and lack of insurance coverage. Matter of time and politics. Some would consider it too "Big Brother." There's already squawking about red-light cameras. I have mixed feelings about it. Might not bother me if I was running the show. Don't know yet, as it hasn't affected me and I don't know enough about it. They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! That is part of the problem. if they have your tag, the time and the place from every camera you pass, tracking your every move becomes increasingly doable. Of course if you have a new cell phone, they have you anyway. You can turn off your phone but the tag will still be out there. I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID tag in your car that links to all of the databases I've been pushing to have chips implanted in the necks of babies as they're born, similar to those implanted in dogs and cats. Then we wouldn't need all these damn cameras. Chips are cheap. They could even be programmed so that medical procedures could be tracked. Once a set amount is spent on healthcare, they explode. Wouldn't need Obama's death panels then either. :) |
Winning elections is not good enough
In article ,
says... On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:24:15 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:58:20 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:21 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... The buyer still has to come up with a tag and the insurance is tied to that tag. I can't speak for everywhere but the wrong tag on a care around here is a "felony stop". ( get out of the car, lay on the ground, don't make any fast moves) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum but you could be a drug courier or driving a getaway car. This all sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me. Most illegals are going back and forth to work. They avoid doing stupid things and are just regular people trying to get by. Sure, sometimes there are hardened criminals doing dirty deeds. This has nothing to do with most people. Most people just buy insurance and do things by the book. Co-ordination between insurance companies and DMV's have no doubt caused some people to buy insurance when they would have previously gone uninsured. Some of those systems can probably be gamed too. Illegals most often just ride with a legal motorist. But anybody who doesn't care about the law for whatever reason can buy a used car on the street and steal tags. Happens all the time. The smarter ones avoid vanity plates like CUDDLY4U. Just go with something like 154 823L. Cops aren't running tags enough to affect that. But it could happen. The tollway cameras and red light cameras could be advanced to go real time and notify nearby cops of hits on stolen tags and lack of insurance coverage. Matter of time and politics. Some would consider it too "Big Brother." There's already squawking about red-light cameras. I have mixed feelings about it. Might not bother me if I was running the show. Don't know yet, as it hasn't affected me and I don't know enough about it. They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! That is part of the problem. if they have your tag, the time and the place from every camera you pass, tracking your every move becomes increasingly doable. Of course if you have a new cell phone, they have you anyway. You can turn off your phone but the tag will still be out there. I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID tag in your car that links to all of the databases We used to have a box we attached to the front fork of the motorcycle, and it was capable of .001 second timing for laps and finishes. Now they just peel a little sticker off of a sheet and you stick it on your helmet visor. I has a bit of circuitry in it and a bar code, but it's as thin as any other sticker and is about 3/4 inch, by 2 inches long. It too gives a reading down to .001. They are read by a small box suspended above the track... |
Winning elections is not good enough
In article ,
says... They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! That same technology is being used by repo men in densely populated areas. They run through parking lots at malls and sports arenas and get a hit on a vehicle up for repo and then the automatically get a work order from the finance company to repo the vehicle. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/au...pagewanted=all |
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