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The blogger is quoting Gen Maples.
When the blogger is Arianna Huffington everything you post is gospel.
Please show me the evidence that supports this statement.
Evidence of what? Maples' Testimony?
I imagine I can page through the congressional record and find his
testimony but you would just change the subject if I did.
And that's what keeps her in the game.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

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That is just another thing that gets you stopped.

No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance.
It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to
lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense.

Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to
take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!!
Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a
"little drunk"... Moron...


It's always mildly humorous when the dumbest poster in rec.boats,
scott ingerfool, refers to others as morons.
Call him a moron if you want but he's absolutely correct. Even a broken
clock tells the correct time twice a day.

I always laugh when the retard of rec.boats calls someone dumb. I mean,
the guy is a hs dropout for ****s sakes...

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 3/2/11 10:28 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...

That is just another thing that gets you stopped.

No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance.
It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to
lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense.

Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to
take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!!
Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a
"little drunk"... Moron...


It's always mildly humorous when the dumbest poster in rec.boats,
scott ingerfool, refers to others as morons.
Call him a moron if you want but he's absolutely correct. Even a broken
clock tells the correct time twice a day.

I always laugh when the retard of rec.boats calls someone dumb. I mean,
the guy is a hs dropout for ****s sakes...

*You* are the "retard" of rec.boats, Snotty. You and your equally dumb
Loogy clone buddy.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:31:37 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:52:41 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:41:54 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote:

"Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper
documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your
license."


Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's
car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she
asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving
without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from
you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if
there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal
activity.

Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a
screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You
really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her
worker's car got towed either.

Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the
guy drives it out of the gate..

Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that
to happen. A bunch of nonsense.

He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and
probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work.

Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry
about your lack of insurance. Good grief!

If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance
company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said
you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once
the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the
computer says you are cleared.
Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over
mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out.
You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to
know much about how cops operate.

They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else.
That's just paranoia.

You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed.

Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New
information or you're just making thing up to suit you?

You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent
people who give people a break when they can.

Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give
some people a break sometime but don't count on it.

You seem to have a very low opinion of cops.

They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a
person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a
wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up
in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who
think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with
deadbeats.

Sounds paranoid to me...

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:38:01 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:33:47 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:03:02 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:16 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:29:12 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:34:45 -0800, wrote:

They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we
speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and
a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen
telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner..
This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars,
wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner
of that tag.
This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ...
as soon as they justify the cost.

Sure... ok, we'll just hang around until they get that working...

The camera system works great, they are just testing the public
perception. It will probably come down to cost.

On the plus side, the majority of felony arrests come from traffic
stops in one way or another. The cop has a huge advantage as soon as
you get in your car particularly if they can find an excuse to tow the
car. Driving is not a right it is a privilege (or so they say) and you
sign away most of your rights as soon as you get in a car.
(certainly amendment 4, 5, 6 &7)

Not for checking insurance it doesn't.


They may stop you for "insurance" but while they have you they can;
Make everyone get out and show ID
Search everyone in the car, ostensibly for weapons
search the passenger compartment of the car, ostensibly for weapons
call in a drug dog for a sniff
ask you all sorts of questions about anything they think is
"suspicious"
... and here they will check your immigration status but it is really
on your DL.
Of course if anyone in the car "pops" on the computer they are going
for a ride and that is where most of the felony arrests come from.
That is why they think it is worth the cop's time.

They would have to have some excuse. Sure, if you're sticking a gun
out the window, they're going to crawl all over you.

This is what they CAN do. (refering to the rights you give up in the
car)
The "excuse" is you look suspicious. That can be almost anything. I
was shaken several times in DC, mostly because I was out late at night
working. No real good reason to stop me but they did.
I usually made it go pretty fast because I had a good reason to be
there and I gave them permission to shake my car. After a while I got
to know all the cops and I didn't have any more problems.

You should have said no. I've said no. They don't like it, but they've
either got to arrest or move on.

Feel free to give up your civil rights. I won't.

You're
backpeddling, as no cop is going to bother running plates on every car
he sees, so that he can find one that doesn't have insurance.

This works the other way. They get the list of the canceled policies
in their district and they go hunting.

Sure... right.

... but cops do run plates for the reason I said before. It is the
biggest source of felony arrests. By far the largest number of drug
busts start with a traffic stop. They used "gardening supplies" as PC
for a search of a house and turned up a grow operation here about 3
weeks ago. Personally I bet it was an illegal wire tap or something
that got them looking in the first place but that is how it was
supposed to have happened.

While they are fishing, if they do turn up "no insurance" they will
bust you, if for no other reason, they get a free search of your car
when they inventory it. That is fishing with dynamite.

BS. Total.


If they do have cause to impound the car it has to be "inventoried" so
even if you did manage not to give permission for a full search (a lot
harder to do than you learned in law school), it just happened.

Again, all a bunch of a nonsense scenario that would never happen.

Which part? The inventory? That is simply a fact.
If for no other reason it is so you can't say they took the diamond
ring you had in the console.
If they do turn up a roach in your ashtray here, that is another
charge and they probably search your house.
This ain't California and pot is really illegal here. They are serious
about it. An ounce in your night stand makes you a trafficker (20
grams)

Sounds like the police are corrupt. Maybe we should replace them with
cops for hire.


BTW why didn't you google this?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_police...re gistration
If it's parked on public property, or you're caught operating that
vehicle, yes

I thought you don't like wiki?

http://car-insurance.onlineautoinsur...-legal-limits/
If a resident of Florida is caught owning or driving a vehicle without
a policy in force which meets the state’s requirements, the resident
may be ticketed. Such violations could result in hundreds of dollars
in citation fines or worse, the state of FL may impound vehicles in
violation. Impound fees are charged daily and towing fees could add up
quickly. Keep in mind that when a vehicle is impounded, the owner is
responsible for the impound fees and towing fees that may result in
hundreds of dollars additional to citation fines.


Which is what I posted. Key word... may.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:38:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:34:45 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:04:30 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:54 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:33:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ...
as soon as they justify the cost.

I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a
Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to
which you're referring.

Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it.

http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195

Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion!

I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars.
BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking
ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not
giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities
in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks
who owe parking tickets and such.

To make Plume happy I am sure they will also use it to catch child
support deadbeats. If you pop on that in a traffic stop you are going
away too in Florida. (for the legal eagles, it is an open contempt of
court warrant)

Which has nothing to do with being stopped BECAUSE your insurance may
or may not be out of date.

That is just another thing that gets you stopped.

No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance.
It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to
lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense.


That is simply not true.

It simply is true. No cop is going to be running plates on every car
that goes by in the hope of finding someone who lack insurance. It's
just nonsense.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:21:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:44:13 -0800, wrote:



They search the database and respond to any hit.

That was a puff piece, trying to minimize everything that this system
will do.

Look... cops are not driving around aiming cameras at cars to figure
out if the owners have insurance. That's just nonsense. It might come
up during a stop, probably would, but that's a long way from what
you're proposing.

Read my top quote

If you pop on the computer for anything, you get stopped. Insurance is
one of those things. It is clear the cops here go looking for cars
with no insurance or they would not have found the server yesterday.
I don't know what the chances are that you get caught on any given day
but it is enough to scare people into getting insurance.
This is four for her place that she knows about and one of them took
the chance, it didn't work out so well.
The damned tow is about $300 and $50-$100 a day (depending on who gets
the tow) until you can get your tag straightened out. I hope you don't
have a roach in the ash tray.

One of the reasons they use the traffic (radar) guys for this is they
may be able to write a few speeding tickets while they are waiting for
the insurance guy to drive onto a public street.


They are not checking unless they have a reason to. Not sure how to
make this more understandable.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:23:13 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:45:16 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote:


I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID
tag in your car that links to all of the databases

I'm betting that most righties would be fine with it until they figure
out it applies to them, as well as Hispanics.

I'm sure most of them have a toll transponder if they live near a toll
road/bridge anyway. Same thing. It is just who wants to read it.

P A R A N O I D

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:25:19 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:47:35 -0800, wrote:


Call the cops, tell them your insurance expired and you still have to
drive to work a few days until you can get it reinstated. Use your
cutest girl voice. Tell us what they say. I bet the words "arrest" and
"Impound your car" come up.

That's just dumb. Come on.


Don't answer until you make the call. Do it from a pay phone.

Don't worry. This has nothing at all to do with them towing a car for
no other reason that a possible lapse in insurance.

Until someone in California asks a cop if they tow cars with no
insurance, you are just talking out of your ass. I know they do here.

Never said they don't. What I said was they don't look for cars
driving by that don't have insurance. They look for other things, and
the lack of insurance is secondary to the stop.

Keep at it. Eventually, you'll figure it out.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:28:19 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:48:38 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:34:21 -0500, wrote:


We still need the cops to enforce the law. I am talking about the
insurance companies doing the bookkeeping since they already do most
of it anyway.

Why?

A better job for less money. Keeping 51 separate databases that do not
talk to each other is just stupid.

No... my question was why do we need the cops? Why not just let the
for-profit companies do it, since they're so much better than public
employees?

Cops are the ones with the guns and the red/blue lights on the roof.

Data processing geeks are the guys back at the county administration
building with tape on their glasses.

Big difference

False equivalency again?

The cops are corrupt. Replace them!