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Winning elections is not good enough
On 2/28/2011 1:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
"I Reply: Buying a car for cash from a private party you do not have to show insurance. And the lack of insurance takes a while to kick in. I sold my 96 s10 and the person failed to register the car in a timely manner. We file a document with the DMV when you sell a car that removes you from the liability for the car. I got a letter months later about expired insurance. But that is more a problem with the DMV and their crappy records system. I think in some states you are libel for the car until it is retitled under someone else's name. Too bad for the seller if the car was bought to be used in a crime or if the car killed someone and was later abandoned. |
Winning elections is not good enough
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:18 -0500, John H
wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs to be a relatively slow process. Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone. It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I don't know the details, but still... We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean war. In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on the next plane. Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink in government talk. If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in much less than 180 days. Sounds like socialism to me.... |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:45:35 -0500, John H
wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:52:08 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:02:27 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:15:26 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:21:48 -0500, John H wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:59:25 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:45:06 -0800, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:21:09 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:43:26 -0800, wrote: The problem with defense cuts is most if that budget is a jobs program, building hardware we don't need and the Pentagon doesn't want. I would bring the troops home tho. Why prop up the economy of other countries when we have as much trouble as we have. We do have the precedent of having the military working on infrastructure here with the Army Corps of Engineers. Maybe we should declare war on bad bridges and roads here with a CCC type service. The unions would never tolerate it. So, it should all be done without union workers? Doesn't sound like much of a jobs effort to me. I was thinking more about what you can do with a half million military people if we stop the wars and pull back all the people we have scattered around the world in places where we won the war a half century ago. So, you want to use the military to do the same jobs as regular citizens for 1/10th the pay? I'm sure that would do a lot for the economy. "1/10th"? Why do you think military people are so poorly paid? Your typical GI is making over $20k by the end of his first hitch and if he really moves up through the ranks it could be $27k or more. They also have most of their living expenses paid by Uncle Sam. It may not be as much as an attorney makes but once you factor in room and board, it is certainly competitive with a basic construction worker who may only be making $14 an hour ... when he can find work. $27K... wow, that's over the poverty line for sure. And, they get to get shot at from time to time. So, you'd prefer to throw the basic construction worker out of a job to save some money? Even that doesn't compute. As usual you totally miss the point. I am talking about creating enough new infrastructure construction to put all of them to work. I am also talking about bringing these guys home so they won't get shot at. I'm not missing the point at all. How do you intend to create the infrastructure without government funding? You say you didn't miss the point then you go off in the wrong direction Co back up to the top if this snip. the whole thing is about REDIRECTING the DoD budget I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs to be a relatively slow process. Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone. Besides, it doesn't have to be a relatively slow process. We damn sure moved out a corps and a half to Kuwait in very little time. I know, I was there. I think he's a liar, so why would I believe this? Perhaps he's got some pictures of himself standing next to a burning oil well... I doubt it. Why is that so hard to believe. It only took 180 days to move them all over there and when we left, we destroyed a lot of stuff in place or just left it. WADF! (Not you...me.) I agree! |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:17:16 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:57:30 -0800, wrote: So, how are you going to "redirect" all these "low-paid" troops into homeland jobs without displacing those low-paid construction jobs? By starting new projects. Ok. So, you have no objection to projects sponsored and paid for by the gov't! Sounds like the heavy hand of gov't to me. I have no objection your honor! \\ Good deal I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs to be a relatively slow process. Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone. Good grief! You know that little about economics and/or how the military works? You can't just decide one day to close bases and then everyone leaves. Now you are worried about the Germans? I'm thoughtful about how we as a nation are perceived and our effect on the rest of the world. You aren't I guess. I imagine there are plenty of Germans who wish we would go but even if they didn't we are not the world's p[olicemen. If they want us there, pay us to be there. There are plenty more who appreciate us spending our money there. I think we need to stay engaged there, but we don't need lots and lots of bases. There are a few that should probably remain. We could close foreign bases pretty fast if we wanted to and it is not our job to replace the hole in the German economy. There are a few people here saying the locals don't get that much money from our bases anyway. Sure thing! I guess that was the same sort of decision that was made post WW1. That worked out pretty well, didn't it. False equivalency again. Really? Well, you just got done saying you don't care about the German economy. That's what we said after WW1. There was nothing in common with the surrender of a largely intact Germany at the end of WWI, left to it;s own devices and their total destruction in WWII. We have occupied them for 66 years. When will we decide they are OK? As I said, I have no objection to closing most of the bases. It just doesn't need to devastate our or their economy to do that. Again, we're looking for a long-term solution not a short-term reactionary policy. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:28:35 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:10:29 -0500, wrote: What part of this is so hard to understand, your insurance is on the cops computer in his car in real time. It is not a "random stop". It is a flashing message on the laptop that tells the cop, not only that your insurance was canceled but who your agent/company is. You can't even get a tag without insurance and if it lapses for any reason you tag is flagged. So, how come all those illegals aren't getting stopped as soon as they get on the road?? They aren't. They run legal tags and they have insurance ? Huh? You believe that illegals have insurance on their to do list? No insurance is a tow in Florida and you ride to the station in cuffs. I doubt it. Most likely you're given a ticket unless there's some other reason to detain you. That is simply not true. They do tow cars stopped with no insurance. My wife has had it happen to employees. They have even waited at the gate for them to come out and bust them right there. Sounds like a police state to me. My neighbor got stopped for expired tags. He didn't even have his DL on him. They gave him a fix it ticket. I suppose you could run someone elses tag but that is fraught with it's own perils. I would certainly expect a "felony stop" if I was doing that. (dragged out of the car, knocked to the ground and a cops foot on your neck) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum and perhaps something a lot worse. That computer in the cop car has taken a lot of mystery out of who they are looking at and certainly which car that tag belongs to. Yet, there are lots and lots of people on the road without insurance... Not so much here, maybe you just need better enforcement there. Maryland was bad about that, mostly because DC did not require insurance. That may be better but they also do not talk to each other. They have 2 deputies here in each district who do nothing but insurance, out of state tags and radar. They drive around all day just running tags to see what pops. That was the allure of that camera system that did it automatically. They are checking every tag that comes in range. These guys also look for out of state tags in employee parking lots. That one is a ticket but it is a ticket with a warrant attached if you don't buy a Florida tag right away. The next time it is that tow and the ride downtown. They do all of this because we do have a lot of out of state people here who will blow off a wreck and leave the injured party trying to catch someone across a state line. Well, good for FL. However, there are 49 other states plus DC. |
Winning elections is not good enough
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:56:51 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash, you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about insurance. Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way. As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+ Five years ago. http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability insurance changes: * As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to report insurance status information to DMV for all private use vehicles (CVC §16058). * As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have access to DMV records to verify that your California registered vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1). * Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38). And, that covers new cars or cars bought through a dealer. How many illegals do that? Most buy cars 2nd hand from private parties. Sure... they *can* look it up. Most are going somewhere for more important things. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:31 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: "I_am_Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash, you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about insurance. Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way. As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+ Five years ago. http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability insurance changes: * As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to report insurance status information to DMV for all private use vehicles (CVC §16058). * As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have access to DMV records to verify that your California registered vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1). * Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38). That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the "cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are notified right away. Reply: Buying a car for cash from a private party you do not have to show insurance. And the lack of insurance takes a while to kick in. I sold my 96 s10 and the person failed to register the car in a timely manner. We file a document with the DMV when you sell a car that removes you from the liability for the car. I got a letter months later about expired insurance. But that is more a problem with the DMV and their crappy records system. Exactly. Thus, the argument about the insurance police will get you completely falls apart. |
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