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BAR[_2_] February 28th 11 12:59 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
In article ,
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BTW this is why I have been saying for years, insurance companies
should be titling cars and issuing tags. They are the ones with the
skin in the game and the databases the cops use anyway.
The whole thing could be rolled up into one national database and
eliminate 51 state (remember DC) operations that are not that good
about talking to each other


National db? Perhaps administered by insurance companies? Or, by the
gov't??? Sounds like a police state to me...


Insurance companies already maintain a national database. That was my
point.
The insurance company database is a whole lot more accurate than the
police database unless the police link to the insurance companies,
which they do in Florida.


It is amazing how private enterprise can get a system up and running
between many companies extremely quickly. However when there are
government agencies involved it never seems to get done.



I_am_Tosk February 28th 11 02:50 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.


Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.





As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the
insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+
Five years ago.

http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm

Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability
insurance changes:

* As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to
report insurance status information to DMV for all private use
vehicles (CVC §16058).
* As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have
access to DMV records to verify that your California registered
vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1).
* Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject
to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your
insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of
insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you
provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38).


That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the
"cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT
like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are
notified right away.

Ziggy®[_4_] February 28th 11 03:56 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.

Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.





As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the
insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+
Five years ago.

http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm

Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability
insurance changes:

* As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to
report insurance status information to DMV for all private use
vehicles (CVC §16058).
* As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have
access to DMV records to verify that your California registered
vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1).
* Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject
to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your
insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of
insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you
provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38).


That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the
"cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT
like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are
notified right away.



Any comments you read from DePlume/Jessica come straight from her ass. It's
obvious that her comments never passed close to her brain.


John H[_2_] February 28th 11 05:45 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:52:08 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:02:27 -0800,
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:15:26 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:21:48 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:59:25 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:45:06 -0800,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:21:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:43:26 -0800,
wrote:


The problem with defense cuts is most if that budget is a jobs
program, building hardware we don't need and the Pentagon doesn't
want.

I would bring the troops home tho. Why prop up the economy of other
countries when we have as much trouble as we have.
We do have the precedent of having the military working on
infrastructure here with the Army Corps of Engineers. Maybe we should
declare war on bad bridges and roads here with a CCC type service.
The unions would never tolerate it.

So, it should all be done without union workers? Doesn't sound like
much of a jobs effort to me.

I was thinking more about what you can do with a half million military
people if we stop the wars and pull back all the people we have
scattered around the world in places where we won the war a half
century ago.

So, you want to use the military to do the same jobs as regular
citizens for 1/10th the pay? I'm sure that would do a lot for the
economy.

"1/10th"?
Why do you think military people are so poorly paid?

Your typical GI is making over $20k by the end of his first hitch and
if he really moves up through the ranks it could be $27k or more.
They also have most of their living expenses paid by Uncle Sam.

It may not be as much as an attorney makes but once you factor in room
and board, it is certainly competitive with a basic construction
worker who may only be making $14 an hour ... when he can find work.

$27K... wow, that's over the poverty line for sure. And, they get to
get shot at from time to time. So, you'd prefer to throw the basic
construction worker out of a job to save some money? Even that doesn't
compute.

As usual you totally miss the point. I am talking about creating
enough new infrastructure construction to put all of them to work.

I am also talking about bringing these guys home so they won't get
shot at.

I'm not missing the point at all. How do you intend to create the
infrastructure without government funding?

You say you didn't miss the point then you go off in the wrong
direction
Co back up to the top if this snip. the whole thing is about
REDIRECTING the DoD budget

I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's
probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a
moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs
to be a relatively slow process.

Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone.

Besides, it doesn't have to be a relatively slow process. We damn sure moved out
a corps and a half to Kuwait in very little time.

I know, I was there.



I think he's a liar, so why would I believe this? Perhaps he's got
some pictures of himself standing next to a burning oil well... I
doubt it.


Why is that so hard to believe. It only took 180 days to move them all
over there and when we left, we destroyed a lot of stuff in place or
just left it.


WADF! (Not you...her.)

John H[_2_] February 28th 11 05:51 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800,
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's
probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a
moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs
to be a relatively slow process.

Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone.

It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of
Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries
economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I
don't know the details, but still...

We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make
no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean
war.


In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on
the next plane.


Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink
in government talk.


If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in
much less than 180 days.

Califbill February 28th 11 06:24 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
wrote in message ...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.


Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.

If I get a minute I will look up the California insurance law but I
bet it is as strict as any state. The open question is whether the
cops enforce it. It is possible in that touchy feely state they do not
want to take a chance of finding an illegal.
Florida is more serious about it.
We have gone paperless too, no "insurance card" in your wallet. The
cop gets your insurance status as soon as he punches in your tag
number. They do impound your car if you are not in compliance


Reply"
At least on new cars, the dealer copies your insurance tag. All companies
will cover the new car Liability for about 30 days. They do not care about
the collision coverage, just liability.



Califbill February 28th 11 06:28 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.


Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.





As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the
insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+
Five years ago.

http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm

Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability
insurance changes:

* As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to
report insurance status information to DMV for all private use
vehicles (CVC §16058).
* As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have
access to DMV records to verify that your California registered
vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1).
* Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject
to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your
insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of
insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you
provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38).


That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the
"cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT
like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are
notified right away.


Reply:
Buying a car for cash from a private party you do not have to show
insurance. And the lack of insurance takes a while to kick in. I sold my
96 s10 and the person failed to register the car in a timely manner. We
file a document with the DMV when you sell a car that removes you from the
liability for the car. I got a letter months later about expired insurance.
But that is more a problem with the DMV and their crappy records system.


I_am_Tosk February 28th 11 06:39 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
In article ,
says...

"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.

Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.





As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the
insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+
Five years ago.

http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm

Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability
insurance changes:

* As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to
report insurance status information to DMV for all private use
vehicles (CVC §16058).
* As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have
access to DMV records to verify that your California registered
vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1).
* Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject
to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your
insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of
insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you
provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38).


That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the
"cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT
like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are
notified right away.


Reply:
Buying a car for cash from a private party you do not have to show
insurance. And the lack of insurance takes a while to kick in. I sold my
96 s10 and the person failed to register the car in a timely manner. We
file a document with the DMV when you sell a car that removes you from the
liability for the car. I got a letter months later about expired insurance.
But that is more a problem with the DMV and their crappy records system.


I agree, but she was talking about car dealers... She specifically said
"used car lot".. To talk about private roadside sales, would be the same
as talking about illicit sales of handguns, and not relevant to the
conversation.

Harryk February 28th 11 06:42 PM

Winning elections is not good enough
 
On 2/28/11 1:39 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...

In ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:11:11 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...


Listen up... if you walk into a used car lot and buy a car with cash,
you just drive out. The salesperson isn't going to ask you about
insurance.

Listen up.. No matter how many times you say it, it isn't true, at least
not here in CT. Might be in Kaliforna, but only to accommodate illegals
and derelicts... But not in CT. Every car sale is recorded, cash or
otherwise, the Tax man wouldn't have it any other way.





As I suspected, California has online linkage between DMV and the
insurance company and a cop can check your insurance from his car.+
Five years ago.

http://dmv.ca.gov/vr/insurance_suspension.htm

Here are some things you need to know about recent vehicle liability
insurance changes:

* As of January 1, 2006, all insurance companies are required to
report insurance status information to DMV for all private use
vehicles (CVC §16058).
* As of July 1, 2006, law enforcement and court personnel have
access to DMV records to verify that your California registered
vehicle is currently insured (CVC §16058.1).
* Effective October 1, 2006, your vehicle registration is subject
to suspension if the liability insurance is canceled, OR if your
insurance company has not electronically provided evidence of
insurance when you purchase and register your vehicle, OR if you
provide DMV with false insurance information (CVC §4000.38).


That's a lot of homework for the Plum. I think as soon as she noted the
"cash" thing, we all knew she was talking out of her ass... again. In CT
like you said in Fla, when someone drops insurance, the authorities are
notified right away.


Reply:
Buying a car for cash from a private party you do not have to show
insurance. And the lack of insurance takes a while to kick in. I sold my
96 s10 and the person failed to register the car in a timely manner. We
file a document with the DMV when you sell a car that removes you from the
liability for the car. I got a letter months later about expired insurance.
But that is more a problem with the DMV and their crappy records system.


I agree, but she was talking about car dealers... She specifically said
"used car lot".. To talk about private roadside sales, would be the same
as talking about illicit sales of handguns, and not relevant to the
conversation.


Private roadside sales of guns is perfectly legal in Virginia.


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